-=> On 07-28-19 13:24, Eric Renfro wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

 ER> I don't even recommend anymore, most anti-virus solutions. The only one
 ER> I recommend anymore is Microsoft's, what was named "Security
 ER> Essentials" before, not sure what Windows 10 renamed it to, but I
 ER> recall they did rename it. Windows Defender or something?

That's all I'm using, but even though Microsoft's AV solution is better
integrated and works with, not in spite of Windows, it still causes some issues
at times. Yes, Windows Defender is a name that cropped up at some stage.

 ER> A lot, pretty much darn well near all, started tapping directly raw
 ER> into the network layer, and interpret straight from that. Well, guess
 ER> what most viruses, malware, etc focus on a lot of? Interpretters. When
 ER> you ADD an interpreter to the raw sockets, you expose more direct and
 ER> confrontational means to get right down to the heart of the security
 ER> tools. This is unwise, especially since there's been many
 ER> vulnerabilities in that front too. 

Yes, antivirus products have been responsible for a whole host of
vulnerabilities too.  At least Microsoft's products are design to work
together, and haven't had to be hacked into the OS.

 ER> Yeah. I do definitely miss some of the greatness KDE had. I don't like
 ER> that Akonadi has become this monstrous beast of a thing that it
 ER> probably should never have become because it's become a nightmare to
 ER> maintain as it is. I mean, I even setup my mail servers to run Kolab,
 ER> but now they've moved Kolab to being this commercial thing and they're
 ER> stopping to maintain the GPL release packages they once did. So I'm
 ER> going to eventually be tearing my mail server down and rebuilding it
 ER> completely without any dependancies for the current design concepts.
 ER> Build my own alternatives to some of the feastures Kolab provides, and
 ER> have something I can just use and use well. It's a work in progress on
 ER> that, but it'll definitely happen.

Well, good luck, which way you end up going.   I only run mail servers when I
_really_ have to.  Handling spam has turned running mail servers into a real
chore.   And there's still a lot of bad setups out there.  I've got one
account suffering a heap of backscatter from servers that bounce mail, instead
of issue a SMTP error during the session with the spammer's system (which
doesn't result in backscatter).  I think the domain doesn't have any SPF
records either, which doesn't help.  Backscatter is something I found a
solution for 15 or more years ago.  There's no excuse for a mail server to
generate backscatter today.


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