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Message   me    All   Re: Win9x/me security vs NT   October 27, 2018
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From: Diesel <me@privacy.net>

Virus Guy <Virus@Guy.C0M> news:pnmqvg$ihd$1@news.mixmin.net Mon, 17
Sep 2018 00:04:33 GMT in alt.comp.virus, wrote: 

> Windows 98 se, out of the box, can handle 512 mb of ram.  In fact,
> when installing 98se unless you modify some of the installation
> files the system must not have more than 512 mb of ram.  Once
> installed, and some vcache settings are changed, the hard upper
> limit in terms of installed ram is something like 1.195 mb of ram
> (something that can be achieved with creative use of a ram drive
> that consumes some system ram to limit what is "visible" to
> win-98).  Most situations involving a Pentium-4 based motherboard
> (socket 478 or 775) should have no problems running win-98 with 1
> gb of installed ram and that is indeed very useful compared to the
> more anemic 64 - 256 mb amounts of ram that most people think is
> suitable for win-98. 

Putting windows 9x on a pentium 4 class (or better) machine is a 
waste of hardware; granted, older hardware, but a waste none the 
less. Windows 9x won't take advantage of it.
 
> Quite a while ago a trivial hack was discovered to VMM32.VXD and
> VMM.VXD files that allows win-98 to see and use up to at least 3
> and maybe all 4 gb of installed ram.  Above 2 gb you might have
> problems with some motherboards and VGA display ram (something
> about the amount of ram on the video card and/or the bios video
> apperture size setting). 

That's an unstable modification, too. You won't use all 4gb of ram on 
windows 9x, hacked vmm or not. 32bit editions of XP won't even use 
all 4gigs.
 
> It would have been very common back in 2005 - 2007 time-frame to
> see win-98 installed on a (at the time) new or current motherboard
> with at least 512 mb of ram.

Yep.
 
> And likewise I have not used an AV program on my win-98 systems
> since probably 2008.

The best AV is the gray matter between your ears. That being said, 
your windows 9x machine is only a matter of flipping a few things 
around in some source code and recompiling away from being 0wned by a 
virus modern AV shouldn't (but I make no promises, they had problems 
before and I'm not sure they resolved all of them) have a problem 
with removing for you. Unlike simple trojans and other things you 
know as malware, this would be real and thus, not a joke or something 
to play around with.

I'm certain you don't have the expertise to study a working one 
without getting your system infected in the process.
 
> A surprisingly large assortment of older versions of current
> software runs just fine on win-98, aided by a kernel compatibility
> layer known as "KernelEx" that was developed maybe 10 years ago
> and contines to be enhanced today.  And there is a similar project
> for XP I believe. 

Another series of mods and patches.
 



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