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Message   Wilfred van Velzen    Paul Quinn   Re: Argh..   August 11, 2017
 3:27 PM *  

Hi Paul,

On 2017-08-11 22:30:00, you wrote to me:

 WvV>> If you have to do that, create the files in a temporary
 WvV>> directory on the same drive as the filebox. And when the
 WvV>> files are ready, do a rename to the filebox dir. Rename is
 WvV>> an atomic operation on most os's afaik. So binkd won't see
 WvV>> any "half" written files.

 PQ> The files are created elsewhere and are then moved.  Are you saying that
 PQ> the filebox reference in the binkD.cfg be updated to the temporary
 PQ> directory?  ;-)  No, I'm sure you're not.  I'm guessing that a move is a
 PQ> kind of rename in the underlying DOS (in fact MS-DOS 7.1).

Move can be a rename if it's on the same drive, then it's fast

 PQ> It just takes enough time to be a problem, where the mailer wants to
 PQ> start a session while the files are being created by ARJ (whose
 PQ> replcement with ZIP was another project slipped in favour of Fmail),
 PQ> or indeed even being moved.

Then it probably isn't a rename.

 WvV>> The best way, of course, is to use the normal outbound
 WvV>> directory in the propper way for this, and not use a
 WvV>> filebox. ;)

 PQ> I use both but not at the same time for the same nodes, of course.  The
 PQ> fileboxes support a separate _household_ network riding on the back of
Fido
 PQ> I call a system of StarGates.  What goes in one comes out at another
 PQ> someplace, just like StarGates in the TV series operate.  :)

I have also configured fileboxes for some nodes in my binkd.config, as an easy
way to dump files to them. But I have configured them wiht 'h' (hold). So binkd
 doesn't touch these files until a "regular" connection is made to the system.
That way a copy/move to the filebox can take some time, without being it a
problem, because binkd doesn't start transmitting them right away.

 PQ> Oh, and I thought that you might have been hinting to mark that Fmail
 PQ> uses binkD semaphores (*.csy) while creating mail bundles for a node.
 PQ> Or maybe Fmail could in the future?

Of course fmail uses bso style semaphore files, but just the *.bsy ones, which
is sufficient...

Bye, Wilfred.

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