-=> On 07-05-19  21:20,  Gregory Deyss <=-
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 GD> True but most knew a trade, my Family came from Hamburg, Germany and
 GD> settled in Sand Lake / Averill Park, N.Y., in Upstate New York, not far
 GD> from where I am now Schodack Landing, N.Y.

So what was the trade of those first imigrants from your family?

 DS> How is that different from the people appearing at our southern border
 DS> who are looking for asylum -- and are fleeing far worse conditions than
 DS> the people who came in through Ellis Island.

 GD> There is a "Yuge" difference, between those people who came to Ellis
 GD> Island to be processed and then granted access into our country to 
 GD> make a better life for
 GD> themselves and their families, my ancestors were among the 
 GD> tens of thousands of
 GD> people who all had the same American dream.

And the people coming from the south are doing exactly the same.


 GD> They were not looking for a handout

There is no evidence that most of the current migrants are looking for a
handout.  There is plenty of evidence that they are simply fleeing from
an intolerable situation.

 GD> Also in the crowd from Ellis Island was the Great Grandfather to Donald
 GD> Trump and just look at what that family has been able to accompli$h.

And why can't that be true in the future for the immigrants from the
south?

 GD> The only way the migrants - south of the border that you as well as
 GD> others are so compassionate about would be similar to the folks who
 GD> came to America via Ellis island is if they were to get in line to
 GD> become  citizens, the correct
 GD> way.

They are doing it in full accordance with the law which guarentees them
the right to seek asylum.

 GD> many of them from south of the border do bring crime,

Of course there are some criminals in the migration, but "many" is an
unsupported claim.  Almost all of them are seeking escape from the
conditions in their country of origin.

 GD> was the case with the bought and paid for the fake Russian Dossier, and
 GD> called it Russian Collusion. Recently  it was discovered that there is
 GD> NO intel to support support such a allegation. (sounds about right and
 GD> accurate. Made up just like I have been saying. 

As has been said many times, and some folks keep ignoring, much of that
"Dossier" has been substantiated by investigation.  None has been proven
false.
 
 GD> They might appear to me to more human to me and even gain a bit of 
 GD> understanding and even be compassionate to their cause. 
 GD> If they did not violate U.S. Sovereignty.

You are claiming that they have violated US Sovereignty, but most of
them have simply come to the US Border patrol and asked for asylum.  How
is that a violation of US Sovereignty?  It is what the USA law says that
they are entitled to do.

                               Dale Shipp
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