Hello Ward,

>GD>Your operating from a standpoint that the (U.S.) will be the ones who are
>GD>going to lose, this is not our nature.
>GD>History has shown again and again that we finish what someone else
>GD>starts.
>
>This seems like the hallmark of short memories. The War of 1812 was not
> successful (technically the US lost it), you got your asses whipped in New
> Orleans,

The British lost 3 generals and 8 colonels, while the Americans
lost 11 men.  IOW, the Americans kicked butt, winning the Battle
of New Orleans decisively.  Had the outcome been different, the
British never would have honored the Treaty of Ghent.

>you backed Napoleon who got defeated,

The Louisiana Purchase was a business deal, with President Jefferson
sending the French an offer they could not refuse.  This was more like
a swindle, as Jefferson did not have the funds to pay the French.  He
had borrowed funds from Lloyd's of London, which the French gladly
accepted as payment.  When it came time to repay the loan, well, that
is another story.

>you backed the South-Vietnamese regime which became defeated (as was
> yourself),

JFK made sure Diem never sold the South Vietnamese out.

>the US only joined WW2 after the fortunes of war in Europe had already
> turned against the Nazis,

The US entered WWII shortly after the events of Pearl Harbor in the
Pacific, and within the same month in the Atlantic.  Long before the
tide had turned against the Japanese or the Nazis.

>the US did not achieve military (or any other) success in Afghanistan nor
> Iraq nor Iran,

The British were never able to conquer Afghanistan.
The Russians were never able to conquer Afghanistan.
The US was also never able to conquer Afghanistan.

Aghanistan is not even a country, but more like a tribal area.
Rudyard Kipling wrote about it long ago.  Nothing has changed much
since his time.

The US overthrew Saddam Hussein and saw to it that he could never
return to power.  But like Aghanistan, not much has really changed
in Iraq.  Only instead of being led by Sunnis, it is led by Shiites.

At the end of WWII, Russia invaded part of Iran.  Kind of like
what it did in Ukraine in 2014.  But nobody likes to talk about
that.  Certainly not the mullahs who are in power today.

The Taliban is no longer in charge of Afghanistan.  Saddam Hussein
is history.  Usama bin Laden has been fed to the fishes.  And the
mullahs in Iran remain as unpopular today as they were decades ago.

>the Spanish-American war was started on a lie (as was the invasion of Iraq),

And ended with Spain ceding lots of property to the US.

>that landing at Mogadishu which was a joke and the US are still stuck in
> South Korea,

Bill Clinton fixed the mess created by Bush41 in Mogadishu, and
the US remains committed to defending Koreans from anti-democratic
aggressors from the north.

>the British and Canadians bailed the US out at Omaha Beach or it would have
> been a total carnage...

Had the US stayed out of WWII and Hitler not allowed the British
to escape at Dunkirk, there never would have been any resistance in
France (or anywhere else in Europe).  Russia would have had no real
defense, or the ability to push the Germans out once invaded.  The
world would have belonged to Hitler and his Nazis, with everyone
speaking German (or Basic German rather than their native language).

>there's more of that.

Yeah.  Huey P. Long would have become President and FDR would have
retired to New York.  An isolationist US would then have handed
Hitler all of Europe and Russia, and Tojo all of Asia.  What a swell
world that would have been.

Donald J. Trump is an isolatonist.  Just like Huey P. Long.
The only difference being that Huey P. Long never quite made
it to become President of the United States.

>GD>Our military budget is bigger then some of the foreign nations total
>GD>wealth.
>
>Your national debt is bigger too than that of the rest of the world
> combined.

Oh, come now.  Venezuela has a bigger national debt than the US.
So do many other countries.  But Venezuela is hardly a military power.
Or an economic power.

European nations should pick up the tab for their own defense.
But that will never happen.  Unless Donald J. Trump gets his way.

>GD>Perhaps we know that they are the ones responsible from firing upon the
>GD>oil tankers, they can claim all the innocence all they want. They are
>GD>not the get along neighbor that anyone would want.
>
>There's not a shred of evidence Iran was involved at all. Photos? I still
> see Colin Powel sweating at the UN Security Counsel.

The issue is not Colin Powell.  After the events of 9-11, the
Congress passed the Authorization for the Use of Military Force
(AUMF), which gave the president all the authority he needed "to
use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations,
organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized,
committed, or aided, the terrorist attacks that occurred on
September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons."

This means that if the Trump administration (Trump himself) truly
believes Iran and al-Qaeda have been in cahoots before or after
9-11, then it (Trump himself) could claim wr with Iran already is
authorized by law.

>GD>They are a aggressive nation - funding terrorism. Interfering in
>GD>international free waterways, controlling the straight where they have no
>GD>business doing so.
>
>These are all things the USA did and is doing too.

The USA is a terrorist nation???

"Ultimately, I'm always right." ~Donald J. Trump

That comment is terrifying.  Especially to children who have
been separated from their parents.  But how does that make the
USA a terrorist nation?

--Lee

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