Hello Mike,

>>SW>Without it there
>>SW>is Anarchy. I have friends that waited 20 or more years to gain US
>>SW>citizenship. It is an injustice to US citizens to allow anyone to just
>>SW>walk in whenever they please.
>>
>>did you friends not "walk in whenever they pleased"??? they arrived here
>>somehow...
>
>I cannot speak for his friends, but mine came in *legally* and went through
>all of the processes it took to be here *legally*.  Most of them are more
>unhappy about people just wandering in and being able to get even more than
>they are entitled to than I am.

Having dual citizenship should be a right for all.

Nobody should be forced to relinquish their own citizenship in
order to become a US citizen.  And no US citizen should be forced
to relinquish his or her US citizenship in order to become a citizen
of another country.

>Do you not know anyone who is not a native that is here legally?

My grandfather was Sicilian.  He came here as a baby.
My great-grandfather and great-grandmother were Sicilian.
They came here when they were adults.  None of them could
speak a word of English when they got here.

>I will guarantee you that they did not just "walk in whenever they pleased."

They took the boat, as none of them could walk on water.

>All the ones I know (mostly from Asia or South America) had to go through
> all sorts of paperwork to get a visa, then again for a green card, etc.

My great-grandfather had none of those things.  And neither did
my great-grandmother.  Or any of their children.

>Many had to prove they had jobs waiting here for them.

My great-grandfather was a cobbler.  My great-grandmother was
a housewife.  Neither of them had a job when they got here.

>Some had to leave the country for a while in between "phases."

My great-grandfather boarded a boat in Sicily and made his way
all the way to America, the only stops being wherever the boat went
before it got there.  Then he made his way to Louisiana, on foot,
as he never bothered learning how to drive.  Two adults, plus
eleven children, all immigrants from Sicily.

>What they go through to be here legally is a far cry from just "walking in
> whenever they please," and insinuating that they can do so belittles their
> experience.

My great-grandfather chose to come to America in order to escape
persecution in Sicily, as the dictator before Mussolini did not like
Sicilians - especially those who were not wealthy.

>One may say "that is why it should be easier" but I disagree.

If you are trying to raise eleven children on the salary of a cobbler
and the dictator wants you to give him everything you make in the form
of taxes, it makes your decision to immigrate to America very easy.

>Those processes are there for a reason.  They validate the identity of the
> person in question, verify that they are not wanted by the law in their
> home countries, verify that they are here to be productive members of
> society, etc.

None of those things were needed decades ago.  So why should they
be needed today?  With the exception of known criminals, and public
health, there is no reason why anybody should be denied entrance.

>I do not understand why a citizen of any country would want it any other way
> when it comes to who gets let in.

A citizen of another country who is of good moral character could
wind up not being allowed entrance due to the whims of a bureaucrat
who denies them entrance based on frivolous reasons.

For example, Cat Stevens was denied entrance to the US to give
a music performance because some bureaucrat had placed him on the
"do not fly" terrorist list.  Why?  Because Cat Stevens converted
to Islam, and is no longer a Christian.

I can't fix stupid.  And neither can you.  Bureaucrats will continue
to be bureaucrats.  The whole world over.

--Lee

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