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Message   Alexander Koryagin    Anton Shepelev   Women don't like rain   June 27, 2019
 12:36 PM *  

Hi, Anton Shepelev : Alexander Koryagin!
I read your message from 25.06.2019 23:40

 AK>> When a person is in a company of friends he never speaks formally.
 AK>> And he should not to. It is too loathsome, IMHO.

 AS> Correction: "should not" or "ought not to" (depending on what you
 AS> mean).

Is it true, Ardith? Can I replace "speak" for "to"?

 AS> Formal and informal are two poles with natural language somewhere
 AS> in between. Informal language need not mutilate words nor cripple
 AS> grammar. Remember, for example, the dialogs in our screen
 AS> adaptation of Captain Blood (1991). Do you find them loathsome?

 AK>> As for "inside/inside of" formally you are right, but there are
 AK>> many opinions on this account. For instance: [...]
 AK>> http://tinyurl.com/yxacrj6f

 AS> There are more than one opinion on any matter, but there is no
 AS> logical justification of either "inside of" or "irregardless" (for
 AS> another example). They are mere uneducated distortions by people
 AS> who do not care about their language and culture and consequently
 AS> never ponder and wonder about the anatomy of words or their
 AS> functions in a sentence. But such people shall not decide the
 AS> evolution of the language.

Languages follow people, not textbooks. Textbooks follow languages. ;-)

 AK>> IMHO, they are just new words. Like a flash mob, blog, podcast
 AK>> etc. I don't like them, too.

 AS> Correction: I dislike them too, or I don't like them either.

Well. :)

 AK>> But the main feature of informal speech, AIUI, is making the talk
 AK>> more funny and humorous. It's like I see a school boy and cite the
 AK>> Shakespeare' lines:

AK>> -----Beginning of the citation-----
AK>> ...the whining school-boy, with his satchel
AK>>   And shining moaning face, creeping like snail
AK>>   Unwillingly to school.
AK>> ----- The end of the citation -----

 AS> Shakespeare is too difficult for me, who has read Tolkien,
 AS> E.R.Eddison, Poe, Lovecraft, and even John Bunyan. I feel no rhythm
 AS> in this fragment, but see nothing missing save an article
 AS> before "snail".

As for the article I have already discussed here the similar case, when one
prince returned home "smelling like horse". In other words, English is not very
 strict. ;)

And in the verse, the most funny, IMHO, was my distortion, where I replaced
"shining morning face" to "shining moaning face". Although, IMHO, Shakespeare
really hadn't catch properly the words of his muse. In the original there was
"moaning face". It is more true and vivid.

Bye, Anton!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2019

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