Message Area
Casually read the BBS message area using an easy to use interface. Messages are categorized exactly like they are on the BBS. You may post new messages or reply to existing messages!

You are not logged in. Login here for full access privileges.

Previous Message | Next Message | Back to English Tutoring for Students of...  <--  <--- Return to Home Page
   Networked Database  English Tutoring for Students of...   [692 / 900] RSS
 From   To   Subject   Date/Time 
Message   Alexander Koryagin    Anton Shepelev   rules of this echo   December 14, 2018
 10:40 AM *  

Hi, Anton Shepelev!
I read your message from 13.12.2018 15:12

 AK>> BTW, it is a hummer time to ask here where is the difference
 AK>> between "you are welcomed" and "you are welcome"?

 AS> The one relates the actual action of welcoming and the other a
 AS> potential readiness thereto. Compare the following sentences:

=== "The first one relates to..."
=== and the other is a potential readiness...

 AS>   You are welcomed in my house.
 AS>   You are welcome in my house.

 AS> The first implies that you come regularly and are received well,
 AS> and the second indicates the condition that if you come, you shall
 AS> be welcome. Its truth value does not depend on whether you come or
 AS> not.

I also collected some information on this issue. "Welcome" can belong to three
parts of speech:

The verb "to welcome" IMHO is close to "to greet".
I greeted/welcomed him warmly.

The noun "welcome" is close to "greeting"
I gave him a warm welcome.

The adjective "welcome" is actually a _property_ of a person. As "ugly" is the
property of an ugly man. As an adjective "welcome" means that a person (who is
welcome) is an embodiment of greeting. ;-)
IMHO, "You are welcomed" is legal, means the same, but more formal.


Look at this article, for instance:

-----Beginning of the citation-----
The Grammarphobia Blog
Welcome advice
SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2008
Q: If one says "Your thoughts are welcomed," why does one respond to "Thank
you" with "You're welcome," not "You're welcomed"?

A: In the sentences "Your thoughts are welcomed" and "You're welcome," the word
 "welcome" is being used in two different ways, as a verb in the first one and
as an adjective in the second.

As a verb, "welcome" means to greet cordially or accept with pleasure. You
might ask your doctor, for instance, "Do you welcome new patients," and she
might reply, "Yes, I welcome them" or "Yes, new patients are welcomed."

Similarly, when you say, "Your thoughts are welcomed," you're using "welcome"
as a verb (a past participle in this case).

On the other hand, in sentences like "I felt welcome" or "He's welcome to
visit" or "The rain was welcome" or "She gave welcome advice," the word is an
adjective meaning received gladly or giving pleasure.

It's this adjectival sense that we use when we say "You're welcome" in reply to
 "Thank you."

Dictionaries don't usually define the adjective "welcome" in this idiomatic
usage. The Oxford English Dictionary, for example, describes "You're welcome"
simply as "a polite formula used in response to an expression of thanks."

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2008/09/we...
----- The end of the citation -----

Bye, Anton!
Alexander Koryagin
english_tutor 2018

---
 * Origin: *** nntp://fidonews.mine.nu *** Finland *** (2:221/6.0)
  Show ANSI Codes | Hide BBCodes | Show Color Codes | Hide Encoding | Hide HTML Tags | Show Routing
Previous Message | Next Message | Back to English Tutoring for Students of...  <--  <--- Return to Home Page

VADV-PHP
Execution Time: 0.1594 seconds

If you experience any problems with this website or need help, contact the webmaster.
VADV-PHP Copyright © 2002-2024 Steve Winn, Aspect Technologies. All Rights Reserved.
Virtual Advanced Copyright © 1995-1997 Roland De Graaf.
v2.0.140505

Warning: Unknown: open(c:\Sessions\sess_l5pv4662jdbpuk5se34pplkbi0, O_RDWR) failed: No such file or directory (2) in Unknown on line 0 Warning: Unknown: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (c:\Sessions) in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: session_start(): open(c:\Sessions\sess_l5pv4662jdbpuk5se34pplkbi0, O_RDWR) failed: No such file or directory (2) in D:\wc5\http\public\VADV\include\common.inc.php on line 45 PHP Warning: Unknown: open(c:\Sessions\sess_l5pv4662jdbpuk5se34pplkbi0, O_RDWR) failed: No such file or directory (2) in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Unknown: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (c:\Sessions) in Unknown on line 0