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From: alexander koryagin <koryagin@erec.ru>

Hi, Roy Witt!
I read your message from 28.10.2013 12:09

  ak>>>> I read some years ago that an American Martian probe crashed on
  ak>>>> its surface because the programmers mixed up miles and
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  ak>> I told you of NASA's Mars Climate Orbiter which crashed in 1999.
  ak>> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news...
  ak>> article "Mars Mission's Metric Mixup"

  RW> And I told you about the Soviet's doing it 30 years before.

We told about the problems connected with measuring systems. Those Mars 
satellites are not connected with it.
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  ak>> system and materials were different you would need to redraw the
  ak>> full documentation from the scratch.

  RW> True. And it would take an entire team of draftsmen to accomplish
  RW> such a feat.
  ak>> It could take months.
  RW> Yeup, sometimes even longer if your changes were incorrect.

So, Tupolev didn't brought back the things they wanted from him, giving 
him money. It was quite harsh time then. 

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  RW>>> We even take your 7.62mmx39mm AK-47 cartridges and convert them
  RW>>> to SAE and they're made to NATO specs.

  ak>> It's no wonder. The metric system was introduced in Russia after
  ak>> 1917. Before that time Russian weapon and shells were made in
  ak>> inches (or units derived from it). So, we had "line" unit = 1/10
  ak>> of inch; 3 lines calibers is 7.62 mm.

  RW> Man, you guys sure make it hard on yourselves. 1/10 of an inch
  RW> decimally is. 1 of an inch.. 1 x 3 =. 3 inch. But we require more
  RW> accuracy in the specification, at least 3 places after the decimal
  RW> point. So, 7.62 is not the size of the projectle. It actually
  RW> measures. 308 inch which is actually 7.823mm, but we call it 7.62mm
  RW> to satisfy the NATO standard. Working in fractions is taught here,
  RW> but never used beyond the 3rd grade of primary school.

Our using a 1/10 inch unit before 1917 doesn't mean that me can't use 
other units of measure. Now we measure a caliber with millimeters and 
two points after the decimal point. Therefore, we have a more fine 
graduation.

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  RW>>> their own. Even then, Soviet tanks, etc., where copies of
  RW>>> American tanks and equipment, including airplances.
  ak>> There was no need for that. Russian planes and tanks were superior
  ak>> than Americans, everyone, who has some knowledge in weaponry,
  ak>> knows such famous names as T-34 tank, Yak 3 and Yak 9 fighters.

  RW> I'll give you the benefit of doubt on the tanks, but not the
  RW> aircraft. Not until the Migs came along were Russian airplanes
  RW> superior to anything. American planes were superior to German
  RW> airplanes and you know how much better they were than any Russkie
  RW> craft.

A groundless twaddle.

  RW> Example: Here's a comparison of the Yak1 vs the NAA P-51 Mustang.
  RW> These two aircraft first appeared in 1940, the P51 being larger and
  RW> heavier thant the Yak1. In fact, the Yak1 looks like it is a direct
  RW> copy of the Mustang, but in smaller form.
  RW> And yet:

  RW> Powerplant:
  RW> Yak1 - 1 x Klimov M-105P V12 liquid-cooled inline engine 
delivering 1,180
  RW> horsepower.
  RW> P-51 - 1 x Packard V-1650-7 Merlin piston engine generating 1,590hp.

  RW> Conclusion: the P51 was more powerful.

  RW> Maximum Speed:
  RW> Yak1 368 mph (592 km/h) (320 kts)
  RW> P51  437 mph (703 km/h) (380 kts)

  RW> The P51 was faster.

You numbers have little sense. For instance, you can also take a German 
tank "Tiger" and compare it with T-34. In this case you would whine that 
Tiger has a more powerful gun, a more powerful engine, a more strong 
armoring etc. But in really, on a battle field, Tiger was easily bitten 
by T-34 because the latter was easier, more maneuverable, had more 
perfect forms. The same could be said for Russian Yaks fighters that 
overcame any German fighters. Their maneuverability and fighting 
efficiency were extremely good. In short, your comparison of Mustang and 
Yak senseless unless they had some score fighting each other.

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  ak>> It's only after WW2, when the Americans captured fascist
  ak>> constructors, they managed to construct some intricate machinery
  ak>> and
  RW> LOL! I can tell you're a product of Soviet propaganda... aka: Brain
  RW> Washing...

Not Brain Washing, but Braun von Verner, whose rockets killed thousands. 
The Americans saw neither blood on his hands nor his status of a SS 
officer. BTW, in Germany there were many people who trained their skill 
by killing innocent people in other ways. For instance, there were 
doctors who tested different sorts of drags on POWs and Jews. I believe 
those doctors and their valuable materials were also moved on the other 
side of the pond. Ir was impossible to refuse from them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Brau...

  ak>> even landed on the Moon before the USSR's Lunokhod. On the
  ak>> modification of the rocket that bombed London.
  RW> No, that was a rocket of our own design. I worked as a Tool & Die
  RW> maker for the company that produced it.

Von Brown was the main designer of the American space program. Probably, 
the US had no person to replace him.

Bye, Roy!
Alexander Koryagin
fido7.english-tutor 2013
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