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alexander | Roy Witt | Re: 3xHa! |
July 6, 2018 10:01 PM * |
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<MSGID_1=3A387=2F22_526adb1a@fidonet.org> From: alexander koryagin <koryagin@erec.ru> Hi, Roy Witt! I read your message from 25.10.2013 15:31 RW> <skipped> ak>> I read some years ago that an American Martian probe crashed on ak>> its surface because the programmers mixed up miles and kilometers. ak>> It is difficult to sit on two chairs. RW> You got your stories mixed up with Mars 2. Mars 3 was an unmanned RW> space probe of the Soviet Mars program which spanned the years RW> between 1960 and 1973. Mars 3 was launched nine days after its twin RW> spacecraft Mars 2. The probes were identical spacecraft, each RW> consisting of an orbiter and an attached lander. Mars 2 RW> crash-landed on the martian surface. No American mars probes have RW> crashed. I told you of NASA's Mars Climate Orbiter which crashed in 1999. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news... article "Mars Mission's Metric Mixup" RW> <skipped> RW>>> LOL! All Tupolev had to do was mulitiply any inch dimension by RW>>> 25.4 and he'd have the equivalant dimension in metric. ak>> As I can explain it, an aircraft is made from the materials ak>> produced by the local industry. RW> And as the American SAE has found, there is a metric to SAE RW> equivalant or vice versa that fits the requirements. i.e. there is RW> very little measured weight difference between a 3mm sheet of RW> aluminum and a SAE sheet of 1/8th inch. Yet, one is thicker than RW> the other. ak>> The USSR industry had different metric standards. RW> Not a problem, if you can "sit on two chairs" at once and have the RW> ability to figure these things out, it's quite easy to do. As I said, it was a funny accusation, but some reasons were logical. The aircraft documentation consisted of thousands of pieces of engineering drawings. No AutoCad software existed at that time. So, there were two different consequences: if the drawings were OK, all you needed was just copying them, as many as you needed at your plant. The production could started immediately. But if every piece of drawing was not in the metric system and materials were different you would need to redraw the full documentation from the scratch. It could take months. Suppose you have to drill a hole 1/2 of inch. In metric system a worker must drill 1/2 * 2.54 = 12.7 millimeters hole -- he hasn't such drilling bits. So every piece of the documentation has to be not only recalculated, but updated in addition. It takes time and resources. In short, the overall cost was similar to designing a whole aircraft from the scratch. AFAIR, only one American (passenger) aircraft (from those bought by Tupolev) had actually been produced in metal. <skipped> ak>> Even screws were different. RW> It's very easy to convert a 1/4" screw call out to a metric RW> equivalant. You can have one smaller and lighter, as in 6mm or you RW> can have one a little heavier, as in 7mm or 8mm. But it was not up to a worker to do such conversion. All the documentation had to be reworked, redrawn.... RW> We even take your 7.62mmx39mm AK-47 cartridges and convert them to RW> SAE and they're made to NATO specs. It's no wonder. The metric system was introduced in Russia after 1917. Before that time Russian weapon and shells were made in inches (or units derived from it). So, we had "line" unit = 1/10 of inch; 3 lines calibers is 7.62 mm. Of course, if Bolsheviks had started producing weaponry using the metric system they could not have used a lot of prerevolutionary weapon. So, they refused from the metric system in weapon making. ak>> It was not enough to change sizes, they needed to make tons of new ak>> documentation, taking in mind the USSR's standards; they had to be ak>> sure that, for instance, an aircraft rear had such a weight that ak>> didn't spoil the overall balance during the flight. RW> But the Soviets learned how to do that in a hurry when Germany RW> invaded your country and kicked butt, until winter set in. It's no wonder, Hitler was strong. However, if we tell of Europe we can say it had fainted in front of Hitler as a girl before a rat. ;=) RW> Meanwhile, the Soviets used Americn made equipment on a 'lend RW> lease' basis until they could get their *&%& together and make RW> their own. Even then, Soviet tanks, etc., where copies of American RW> tanks and equipment, including airplances. There was no need for that. Russian planes and tanks were superior than Americans, everyone, who has some knowledge in weaponry, knows such famous names as T-34 tank, Yak 3 and Yak 9 fighters. All the experts acknowledged that they were the best during the WW2. It's only after WW2, when the Americans captured fascist constructors, they managed to construct some intricate machinery and even landed on the Moon before the USSR's Lunokhod. On the modification of the rocket that bombed London. Ah, I forgot that there was Sikorsky from Russia. ;=) Bye, Roy! Alexander Koryagin fido7.english-tutor 2013 --- ifmail v.2.15dev5.4 * Origin: NPO RUSnet InterNetNews site (2:5020/400) |
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