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Roy Witt | Ardith Hinton | 3xHa! |
July 6, 2018 10:01 PM * |
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Brer Ardith Hinton wrote to Brer Roy Witt about 3xHa!: AH> Hi, Roy! Recently you wrote in a message to alexander koryagin: RW>> in a written medium such as Fidonet, sometimes there is RW>> no way to express the actual quotation since it is out RW>> of mind, AH> ... and/or the message you're referring to has scrolled AH> off. :-) If I have an idea that the message will expire while the thread continues, I keep an echo with that person's name, where I can save any controverial messages they write. Even then, if I think the message will become a point of contention during that thread or the next, I do the same. i.e. There are undistributed echoes in my AREAS.BBS file that have names like Dossche, Felten and Vlist, to name just a few. Areas like this can be edited into that file at any time. It is quite easy to open an additional copy of GoldEd and copy those quotes to the clipboard. RW>> thus I use the apostrophe to indicate a paraphrased version RW>> of the actual wording used by the original writer or speaker. AH> Yes, you can use quotation marks with a paraphrase... I was speaking of apostrophies...which don't indicate that an actual quotation has occcured. AH> if you make it quite clear you're paraphrasing! The above has been my MO for as long as I have been in Fido. My English, Special Edu wife tells me that it is exceptable to do. Not because she noticed, but because I asked. AH> The problem is that zillions of readers from other countries may AH> interpret this apostrophe as a quotation mark because they are used AH> to single quotation marks. And they're always in error. AH> In much the same way, you interpreted the single quotation mark as an AH> apostrophe because you're used to double quotation marks. No, I only use "quotation" marks when I deem it appropriate. If I wanted to point out to you something you said in the above line, I'd use 'single quotation' marks, aka apostrephes. And if you look at your keyboard, both the "quotation" mark and the 'apostrophe' are on the same key. AH> Folks Over There don't use single quotation marks to indicate +/- AH> half of the material is in (e.g.) Ronald Reagan's words & the AH> remainder is in their own words... they use them as we use double AH> quotation marks & vice versa. :-) They also don't use decimals the same as we do. When they quote a Euro or Dollar amount, they use a comma in place of a decimal point. i.e. $5,00 is actually $5.00 in American decimal language. Not to mention that they write dates backwards. 11-12-2013 is actually December 11, 2013 in Euro speak, while it would be November 12, 2013 in American. They also don't use the decimal equivalent of the same speak in English. i.e. $12 million dollars is referred to as $12 milliard in Euro English. Then they brag about being heads up 'metric' over us, who still use the King's English measure as a rule, but are taught in two different systems, Metric and English measure. Who has the upper hand, again? RW>> Example: RW>> Quote: President Ronald Reagan once said; "Man is not free RW>> unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan RW>> Paraphrased: The same meaning can be understood using less RW>> verbiage; 'Men are free when government is limited.' AH> Or, alternatively: AH> Ronald Reagan once said something like "[Blah blah]." AH> ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ That's certainly a good point that I'll keep in mind, but that's two extra words I don't have to type when using 'Blah, blah.'... AH> The simple addition of two words indicates this version may not be AH> exact. And in a big, busy forum like the FIDONEWS echo such AH> precautions may also save you hours of arguing with people from Z2 AH> who think you're misquoting them.... ;-) But, but, I like to spend hours and hours arguing with people, especially dumb Euros... 8^) R\%/itt - K5RXT Reminder: "On Friday September 8th 2006, Mike Godwin's 16 year experiment was concluded and Godwin's Law was officially repealed by a MAJORITY vote among millions of individuals." http://repealgodwin.tripod.com/ --- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-31012 --- D'Bridge 3.92 * Origin: Lone-Star BBS - San Antonio, Texas - USA (1:387/22) |
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