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From: alexander koryagin <koryagin@erec.ru>

Hi, Ardith Hinton!
I read your message from 17.09.2013 23:46

 ak>> Men and women are so different that even when they wash their
 ak>> faces they have different results. Men will look better.

 AH> So when her Significant Other realizes what she looks like, without
 AH> her War Paint, it's All Over? I thought that went out in the
 AH> 1960's.... ;-)


 PQ>> Give me a dirty-faced woman any time. 
 AH> As either Erma Bombeck or Peg Bracken... both USAian writers,
 AH> BTW... has commented, many people are more attracted to female
 AH> hands which look as if they've been doing something interesting
 AH> than to the soft & unscarred hands in TV ads.

   As would have said Freud "doing this, men remember their childhood
when boys looked at mothers's hands in searching for something to eat."
Pigeons, cats, dogs look at their feeders in a similar way. ;-)

 AH> By the same token, I don't object to the sweat of honest toil when
 AH> it is fresh enough not to remind me of "Eau de Locker Room". If
 AH> only some of our male friends recognized that they needn't shower &
 AH> shave & drown themselves in cheap cologne immediately prior to
 AH> visiting with us... [wry grin].

   That cologne has been checked through centuries! Probably, it is like
valerian drops and cats. 

 ak>> If you want soup making to be less boring laugh ominously every
 ak>> time when you add any ingredient.

 PQ>> I would call it "soup-making", though I cannot explain why.
 PQ>> (Ardith could, I'm sure.)

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 AH>           Anyway, here are the examples I've come up with thus far:
 AH>  1)  standard two-word combinations (in North America, anyway):
 AH>          soup kitchen, soup spoon

   A soup kitchen? What is it? I always thought that a kitchen is a room
to prepare any food.

(??? ... that a kitchen is THE room... which article is more correct?)

 AH>  2)  two words (from a wooden box which originally contained
 AH> Bronnley  English Lemons & which is now about forty years old):
 AH>                           BY APPOINTMENT
 AH>                           TO H M THE QUEEN
 AH>                           TOILET SOAP MAKERS

 AH> Both Pears & Carr's of Carlisle, OTOH... in more recent
 AH> packaging... describe themselves as "xxx manufacturers", which more
 AH> clearly requires two words.

 AH>  3)  one word, no hyphen... confirmed by two dictionaries of
 AH> Canadian English and apparently consistent with US English:

 AH>          dressmaker, dressmaking
 AH>          haymaker, haymaking
 AH>          metalworker, metalworking; woodworker, woodworking

 AH>  4)  mixed results:

 AH>          merry-maker/merrymaker
 AH>          holiday-maker/holidaymaker/holiday maker

 AH> In both cases the hyphen seems to be more popular among Brits & ex-
 AH> Brits of a certain age... but these words are not commonly used in
 AH> North America.

IMHO, we can say that English doesn't prohibit us from a new words
invention. When we say "soup making," without hyphen, and we mean that
"soup" is an adjective and therefore two separate words are correct.
But when we make "soup-making" we mean a single word. I believe that a
dictionary can tell us if "soup-making" exists in nature. If it is in a
dictionary, it looks like a green light. From another side, if English
can make the adjective "soup" from the noun "soup" it probably means
that we can make a new word from the words "soup" and "making" either. 

Bye, Ardith!
Alexander Koryagin
fido7.english-tutor 2013
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