<MSGID_3=3A640=2F384_50a39634@fidonet.org>
processed: spam filter heuristic analysis disabled)
From: "alexander koryagin" <koryagin@erec.ru>

F2EP
Hi, Paul Quinn! How are you?
on Friday, 16 of November, I read your message to alexander koryagin
about "What's in fidonews echo?"

 ak>> I watched it with pleasure.
 PQ> Don't stop there, mate. The best bits can be seen from:
 PQ> http://www.youtube.com/user/klidstone1970
 PQ> You will need to navigate around a little to find his links to  the
 PQ> series.

   I'll probably download all chapters from internet.

 PQ> I  did  find  the  episode  'hosted'[?]  by  Faisal  Kareem  to  be
 PQ> refreshing, only from the point of view that someone  could  be  so
 PQ> dedicated to the cause such as to translate a  documentary  on  the
 PQ> English language into Farsi sub-titles.  On  the  other  hand,  and
 PQ> co-incidently, it may indicate an interest by  his  Farsi  speaking
 PQ> fellows.

   Well, learning languages is  funny  and  is  not  a  waste  of  time.
Although, after reading "Arthas: Rise of the Lich King"  I  thought  how
much crazy must have been the Russian who had translated it for  Russian
people. ;-))

 ak>> Yes, it is not easy to communicate when there are  more  than  200
 ak>> languages in the country. Probably English became a  mediator  for
 ak>> the  Indian  people.  However,  their  languages  themselves,  are
 ak>> probably very similar as they are so close together.

 PQ> Would it be true that all Russian citizens speak the same language?
 PQ> (I don't know. You  tell  me.)  I  certainly  know  that  I  cannot
 PQ> understand some Englishmen, as I once worked with a  guy  who  came
 PQ> from North Yorkshire (near Scotland).

   Russians, Byelorussians, Ukrainians  have  very  close  languages.  I
think they would been even closer if these people had lived together  at
a smaller territory. But Byelorussians and Ukrainians for  a  long  time
lived as part of Poland that's why  their  languages  have  many  Polish
traits. BTW, Poland captured even Moscow and  in  Russia  was  a  Polish
tzar. Who ended badly, however.

   <skipped>
 ak>> Although, no wonder, do you know. If I haven't told you my  theory
 ak>> already I can tell that India and China  are  two  perfect  places
 ak>> where people gather together after another boulder-period comes on
 ak>> Earth.

 PQ> I don't understand this "boulder-period" term,  Alexander.  Do  you
 PQ> mean 'Stone Age'? It's a term that  encompasses  'pre-history'.  Is
 PQ> that close?

   "Boulder-period" (as I read in my dictionary) is  a  geological  term
for the period in Earth's history when the climate became very cold  and
almost all the planet became covered with thick glaciers. The  last  one
was 10-35 thousand years ago. The glaciers moved to the south, literally
striping everything on their way. No wonder we can't find many traces of
human life in such a period and before it, naturally.

 ak>> In short, it looks as this. A huge glacier  intrudes  into  Europe
 ak>> and Asia and sweeps all the people to south, like  a  floor  cloth
 ak>> sweeps roaches.

 PQ> Interesting theory.  However  I  understand  that  most  scientific
 PQ> research (genetics, climate, archeology &  paleontology)  indicates
 PQ> the movement of populations as going  the  other  way  around.  The
 PQ> first peoples to leave Africa were  the  Neanderthals,  before  the
 PQ> great Ice Age (roughly 500,000 years ago).

   The Earth had many such periods. And it even will  be  very  probable
that it'll have it soon again. It is a periodic process. As far  as  all
the ice become water it causes  great  atmospheric  fall-outs  and  show
covers the Earth. All the heat started to be reflected  into  space  (by
clouds or show). As the result we have another icy period. Then again we
thaw out. ;-)

 PQ> The second great exodus from  Africa  departed  just  as  the  last
 PQ> vestiges of the Ice Age were retreating, in various  stages  during
 PQ> the period of  50,000-26,000  years  ago.  Their  offspring,  early
 PQ> versions of _us_ on the European branch, met  and  mated  with  the
 PQ> last survivors of the Neanderthals just as they were dying out.

   They don't died out. We all once met together in India and --  It  is
easy to guess what can happen when many people gather in one  place.  
Just guess what happened with modern people if water  level  raises  and
flood some lands. It will be a time of crazy wars.  It  is  only  seemed
that humans are irreversibly civilized people.

 PQ> The eventual Asiatic branches (and  there  were  many)  settled  in
 PQ> various stages of  evolutionary  'states'  (e.g.  Arabian,  Slavic,
 PQ> Indian, Tibetan, Chinese, Polynesian, etc)  in  their  geographical
 PQ> locations as we find them today.

 PQ> Oh, by the way. Australian aborigines are believed to be related to
 PQ> the Indian sub-branch, which indicates that  their  ancestors  were
 PQ> extreme explorers. 

   When a glacier period is ON, the level of water in oceans is about 50
meters lower than now. So it is very funny when scientists now  consider
continents as they are now. Earth's surface was much greater  than  now.
And, BTW, the people then also liked to live  along  ocean  shores.  ;-)
That's another reason we  can't  find  their  traces.  Besides,  Earth's
surface sometimes is much smaller than now. It interesting, is India  is
a refuge for people in this case, too? 

 ak>> I mean that people actually have no other way than going to safety
 ak>> to India (for Europe) and to China (for Asia and Siberia).  It  is
 ak>> the only reason why India and China have so a big population.

 PQ> The answer is more simple than that. All great  population  centers
 PQ> are based on large river systems. Both India &  China  are  blessed
 PQ> with wonderful drainage systems: big rivers.  The same  goes  for
 PQ> Thailand, Laos & Vietnam, Iraq & Iran, and Egypt.

   It is clear, imho, that the numbers of Chinese and Indian  population
are abnormally big. China, for instance, has big water resources but the
life there is not as easy so to allow such an unrestrained propagation.

 ak>> Similar matter was in China. The Himalayas separated  people  that
 ak>> gathered in China from the people that gathered in  India.  That's
 ak>> why Chinese people  don't  resemble  India  related  people.  They
 ak>> actually became another race. As well as their  language  and  the
 ak>> way of thinking. When Buddhism penetrated to China it smoothed the
 ak>> discrepancies but only smoothed.

 PQ> That's a nice fairy tale,  Alexander.  Resemblance  tells  nothing,
 PQ> like our saying 'you cannot judge a book by its cover'. You need to
 PQ> research more on genetics my friend.  The  only  peoples  different
 PQ> from the rest of the world's population, genetically speaking,  are
 PQ> Africans. They do not have  Neanderthal  gene  traces.  That's  it.
 PQ> Everyone else carries identical genes. But, we  are  all  the  same
 PQ> race of humanoids.

   I don't deny that modern humans have common ancestry. It  means  that
people migrated across the globe many times, but in two ways.  A  normal
way - a slow movement when local resources becomes scarce.  And  another
way - when people saved their lives when climate changed. So  the  human
history is a very dark matter and cannot be traced accurately by present
days findings.

[...The cask savours of the first fill]
Bye Paul!
Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91
fido7.english-tutor 2012 



--- ifmail v.2.15dev5.4
 * Origin: Demos online service (2:5020/400)