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From: "alexander koryagin" <koryagin@erec.ru>

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Hi, Ardith Hinton! How are you?
on Wednesday, 13 of June, I read your message to alexander koryagin
about "King, Sherlock Holmes and a verb "

 ak>> =========The end of the citation================
 ak>>     "I am glad to hear your Majesty say so."
 ak>>     "Your  Majesty  has  something which I should value even more
 ak>> =========The end of the citation================


 AH>           How about "I'm glad to hear you say so, Mr. President?"

well, YOU say.  No "s".

 AH> or
 AH> "I'm glad to hear you, i.e. Alexander Koryagin, or [him/her/it/them]
 AH> say so?"

Ah!  There is a rule that if we use infinive after "here," etc.  I read it
once, but forgot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitive
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The bare  infinitive  is  not  used  in  as  many  contexts  as  the  full
infinitive, but some of these are quite common:
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Several common verbs of perception, including see, watch, hear, feel,  and
sense take  a  direct  object  and  a  bare  infinitive,  where  the  bare
infinitive indicates an action taken by the main verb's direct object. So,
"I saw/watched/heard/etc.  it happen." (A similar meaning can be  effected
by using the present  participle  instead:  "I  saw/watched/heard/etc.  it
happening." The difference is that the former implies that the entirety of
the event was perceived,  while  the  latter  implies  that  part  of  the
progress of the event was perceived.)
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 AH> Another example,  which Dallas & I observed in the TV news just after
 AH> we'd received your message:  an old brick building in  Vancouver  was
 AH> demolished because it was considered to be  unsafe  &  the  necessary
 AH> repairs would have been prohibitively expensive.  The  owner  of  the
 AH> property was hoping to sell it to a developer.  Over a year  has  now
 AH> elapsed & no prospective buyers have appeared.  Meanwhile, the rubble
 AH> which was not properly dealt with has  attracted  hundreds  of  rats.
 AH> Scientists from a local university caught fifteen of them in one  day
 AH> with just one trap,  and they're  having  a  great  time  determining
 AH> whether or not we  have  cause  for  concern  about  a  21st  century
 AH> equivalent of the Black Plague.  The reason I am relating this long &
 AH> sordid tale,  however,  pertains to the use of a similar  grammatical
 AH> construction. When residents of the neighbourhood...  i.e.  folks who
 AH> are almost certainly at a  much  lower  level  on  the  socioeconomic
 AH> spectrum than the hero of Sir Arthur's tales...  are asked for  their
 AH> opinion on the subject a typical response is "I'd  like  to  see  the
 AH> city clean it up & send the bill to the owner." IOW this usage  still
 AH> persists on the Wet Coast of BC,  thousands of miles away & a century
 AH> later,  even among folks who are neither as intelligent nor as  well-
 AH> educated as the fictional person in your example.: - )

There is an essential difference  between  the  Russian  grammar  and  the
English one.  The Russian Grammar orders the  Russians  to  speak  in  a
certain way,  but the English Grammar just describes the  way  the  people
talk.

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 AH> And to make matters worse, "to" may be omitted on occasion... e.g.

 AH> I'd like to dance and tap my feet
 AH> But they won't keep in rhythm

 AH> [This is a song. It's not formal English.  The composer(s) wanted the
 AH> line to scan with the correct number of syllables... and I agree with
 AH> their decision.]

Maybe, here there is a rule:  you _can_ omit "to" when  to  verb  are
connected with "and." For instance,

I'd like to drink and tell you a story.


[...Each bird loves to hear himself sing]
Bye Ardith!
Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91
fido7.english-tutor 2012 



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