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Message   Anatoliy Kovalenko    alexander koryagin   Re: Program Quoter - you are very welcomed   March 3, 2018
 8:24 AM *  

Hello alexander!
10.04.2012 10:41:18, alexander koryagin wrote to Anatoliy Kovalenko:

ak> Well, now look in which way many programs show your message. For instance,
I use Fidolook -- a special, very cool sofware to write/read messages for
Fidonet/Usenet.
ak>
ak> http://savepic.su/1654459.htm

Not as cool as you say. I'm too lazy to count now, but I suppose, in your
screenshot, the program splits the long paragraph to 255 chars lines because
the programmer decided to use easy solutions (as you know, 255 chars make a
standard string type in most programming languages). The fact that the
programmer didn't know how to store and process more than 255 chars doesn't
mean that long text lines shouldn't be used. As you can see, the programmer of
FTNed found a good solution and I never have any problems with wrapping.

ak> Wrapping? But you told me a few days ago that your screen too wide for a
formatted text. ;)

But it's my right to decrease window if I want to! For example, if I don't know
 Albanian, I can use one half of the screen for the Albanian message window and
 the other half for the dictionary window (I use Lingvo, it's a good
dictionary). If I reduce the window twice, its width is already less than 80
chars, and your format becomes horribly distorted!

ak> Any person writes messages using short lines, but before sending your
editor UNFORMATS these short lines paragraphs into one long line paragraphs and
 send it in the form of a single line. The program does not pay attention on
your "/r/n".

I don't understand this idea. In this case all #13#10 would be deleted, and
there would be no paragraphs at all, but see:

Par1
Par2
Par3

Nothing is deleted! I write long lines from the beginning, and the software
saves long lines and doesn't delete my line breaks! Maybe it's your Fidolook
deletes something, I don't know. The problem with deleting ALL #13#10 is that
you will get  only one paragraph, but people usually divide long texts to many
paragraphs according to sense, and you will not be able to restore these
paragraphs backwards.

ak> Windows does not requare to use long paragraphs.

Yep, but if you put your text to Word and try to print it, you will see that
only half of the paper sheet is used:
http://savepic.su/1642199.htm
Paper is expensive nowadays, so it's much more prefferable to use
not-#13#10-formatted text to fill the whole space of the sheet, and it's about
150-200 symbols per line (if you use Times New Roman, size 10).

ak> In short, people have different sofware, and it is desirable to have a
compromise for all how to show paragraphs. Most of people (80%) prefer to
format the paragraphs with quoting and have not-quoted paragraphs as a long
lines. It means that text formatting is acceptable.

Sure, it is acceptable in FIDO, because text is mostly used for reading and
other kinds of text usage are limited.


Bye, Anatoliy.
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