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Message   alexande    Anatoliy Kovalenko   Re: Program Quoter - you are very welcomed   March 3, 2018
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From: "alexander koryagin" <koryagin@erec.ru>

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Hi, Anatoliy Kovalenko! How are you?
on Tuesday, 10 of April, I read your message to alexander koryagin
about "Re: Program Quoter - you are very welcomed"

 ak>> Tell me where I can look at the quoted paragraphs sent as long
 ak>> single lines? All quoted paragraph everywhere are formatted ==
 ak>> they chopped by short lines (60-80 symbols) with line break at the
 ak>> end of every one.

 AK> Here it goes...
 AK> http://savepic.su/1658746.htm

Well, now look in which way many programs show your message. For instance, I
use Fidolook -- a special, very cool sofware to write/read messages for
Fidonet/Usenet.

http://savepic.su/1654459.htm

 AK> As I said, it depends on the software. In DOS, 60-70 chars per line
 AK> look cool because you can't get more than 80 even if you really
 AK> want!

I never wanted, and hardly anyone did. Symbols would become too small, and
lines too long. I like the text to resemble a text in a paper book. I read many
 e-texts and found out that the most convinient width to understand the text is
 68 symbols. For a reader every text line is a portion of the text to
understand. It must not be too long on the screen.

 AK> In Windows(R) it only makes problems because most (or even all)
 AK> apps for Windows(R) can wrap words depending on window size,

Wrapping? But you told me a few days ago that your screen too wide for a
formatted text. ;)

 AK> but they don't reformat #13#10 lines because they think that if
 AK> someone pressed Enter at the end of the line, then there was some
 AK> sense in it and it should not be reformatted to a single line
 AK> block.

It is not correct. When you receive "my" lines in the form of a long line
paragraph it doesn't mean that I write lines 150 symbols long or more! Any
person writes messages using short lines, but before sending your editor
UNFORMATS these short lines paragraphs into one long line paragraphs and send
it in the form of a single line. The program does not pay attention on your
"/r/n".

The same process can be on receving short line paragraphs. And after this
unformatting process you can see paragraphs in the format-flowed form.

But these variant is in use only in the case that your screen is more narrow
than formatted paragraph, and this case can be only with modern small
plane-table computers. And their software must know how to unformat the
incoming text.

At worst, if a small device cannot show formatted paragraph that too wide for
it, it must not wrap it anyway, but show it using a horizontal scrolling line.
BTW any windows editor allows to switch off the wrapping mode.

 AK> As a result, changing window size leads to a sequence of long and
 AK> short lines, which doesn't look attractive...

If your have a normal computer and your window width is more than 80 symbols
you will never have any problems. Because people format their text in a
standand way.

 AK> But it's only IMHO, personally, I don't really care if the text
 AK> formatted or not unless I want to copy it to the clipboard for
 AK> further editing or printing. In this case the DOS-formatted text is
 AK> a headache because all #13#10 should be removed manaully to to make
 AK> the text comply with Windows(R) formatting requrements.

Windows does not requare to use long paragraphs. It is just one of many text
formats. Any GUI windows text software must support a plain ASCII text for
MSDOS. Take any decent text editor and look.

In short, people have different sofware, and it is desirable to have a
compromise for all how to show paragraphs. Most of people (80%) prefer to
format the paragraphs with quoting and have not-quoted paragraphs as a long
lines. It means that text formatting is acceptable.

PS: In this text: I wrote the text carelessly in short lines, but before
sending it Quoter unformatted "my" paragraphs into one line form. I mean that
any program-reader can do this operation itself if it cannot show a formatted
text.

[...Natura abhorret vacuum]
Bye Anatoliy!
Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91
fido7.english-tutor 2012 



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