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Message   Ardith Hinton    alexander koryagin   English   March 2, 2018
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Hi, Alexander!  Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

AH>  "language" and "tongue" in English originated from much
AH>  the same source.  The former came from the Latin "lingua"
AH>  via Old French while the latter came from an older form
AH>  of the same Latin word via some of our Teutonic ancestors.

ak>  The part of the body in the mouth, that is call in English
ak>  "tongue" is called "yazyk" in Russian. For instance, "He
ak>  ate in a hurry and bit his tongue(yazyk)." The same "yazyk"
ak>  we use when speaking about native and foreign languages.
ak>  For instance, "angliskiy/russkiy


          Hmm.  Without an article... right?

          I can figure out the above because both English & Russian are Indo-
European languages, and the Vikings also exerted some influence on both.  The
land invaded by the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes... Angle + Land... later became
known as "England" (except where the name wasn't such a tongue twister).  And
what's an inflection or two between friends??  Seems to me the word "russkiy"
may have other endings too, but I think my friends Over There will forgive my
dull-wittedness WRT inflection in languages other than English.  My ancestors
simplified that when the Normans wanted beef & they had cattle... (wry grin).



ak>  yazyk."


          Okay.  By the time I've finished replying to this message it may or
may not stick in my head, perhaps because it's a Slavic word.  OTOH I figured
out within a few repetitions that "Lingvo" is the name of a dictionary.  That
wasn't a big leap for me because it's consistent with what I know about how a
word such as "lingua" might undergo changes over a few hundred years and/or a
few thousand miles of travel in opposite directions.  Now you have aroused my
curiosity as to why the publishers chose the name "Lingvo", however.  Further
back in history a certain Green & Pleasant Isle was invaded by Romans.  Prior
to that time various others from various parts of Europe took up residence in
more or less the same area(s).  But they didn't leave written records, as the
Romans did, so whatever the latter did still carries a lot of weight....  :-)



ak>  The language names we write without capital letters.


          Ah.  C'est la même en français... it's the same in French.  (Yes, I
noticed your QR code in another echo & recognized it as such although I don't
own a device which can read it.  I'm glad to see you're working on this issue
because accent marks are still used in English & I too have gathered a bit of
information about which character sets appear to be compatible.  More later.)



ak>  Nobel people

AH>  IMHO you're probably referring to the nobility, i.e. the
AH>  aristocracy who find it a challenge to keep drafty old
AH>  castles warm without adding sturdy British woollen
AH>  insulation... not to the folks who assign Nobel prizes.

ak>  Yeah, noble people! ;) Sounds alike.


          Not quite.  In English the emphasis is on different syllables.  :-)




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