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Ardith Hinton | alexander koryagin | English |
March 2, 2018 6:00 PM * |
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Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton: AH> Henry Higgins says about Eliza & her Cockney accent: AH> ... She should be taken out and hung AH> For the cold-blooded murder of the English tongue. ak> Yeah, having thought it over I've realized that it ak> is quite natural that "language" and "tongue" can ak> mean the same. For instance, in Russia we use exactly ak> Russian analogue of "tongue" for both meanings. Can you spell it for us using the Latin alphabet? I'm curious about this because two of my dictionaries say... to make a long story short... that "language" and "tongue" in English originated from much the same source. The former came from the Latin "lingua" via Old French while the latter came from an older form of the same Latin word via some of our Teutonic ancestors. :-) ak> At the http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/hang_1 ak> they say that a process of killing with a rope should ak> have "hang/hanged/hanged" forms. Two of the three dictionaries I consulted expressed the same idea... not by saying "should", but by demonstrating formal usage & politely ignoring other options. While dictionaries nowadays are supposedly descriptive rather than prescriptive they may also leave a person wondering at times why so much of what s/he sees & hears on a regular basis isn't listed. If it's not in my dictionary it doesn't exist, right? Nah... I think my modem buddies here are more intelligent. Thankyou, GAGE CANADIAN, for your "usage notes"... [grin]. ak> Nobel people IMHO you're probably referring to the nobility, i.e. the aristocracy who find it a challenge to keep drafty old castles warm without adding sturdy British woollen insulation... not to the folks who assign Nobel prizes. :-)) ak> always liked, probably, this form of the verb. ak> Therefore, as an idiom, they say: ak> The entrance hall was hung with rich tapestries. "Not our [socioeconomic] class, Dear." I have seen similar examples in other dictionaries although I'd be more likely to say: I've hung a calendar on the wall next to my computer or The kids at my old elementary school hung their coats on pegs mounted along the back wall of the room or At Maisie's Bar & Grill the smaller pots & pans are hung on a rack suspended from the kitchen ceiling. But I don't know of any world-famous plays or novels about that... [chuckle]. --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716) |
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