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COD Weather Processor | wx-storm | HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion |
July 17, 2019 8:06 PM * |
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1563393979-2024-215 Content-Type: text/plain FOUS30 KWBC 172006 QPFERD Excessive Rainfall Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 405 PM EDT Wed Jul 17 2019 Day 1 Valid 16Z Wed Jul 17 2019 - 12Z Thu Jul 18 2019 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, THE NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC INTO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND, AND THE MID SOUTH... ...Upper Ohio Valley into the northern Mid Atlantic and southern New England... No significant changes were made to the previous ERO across this region; the primary change was to expand the Slight Risk area slightly further north based on some shifts in the hi-res model QPFs. In particular, the 12Z runs of the 3km NAM, WRF-ARW2 and HRRR seemed to most closely match regional radar trends, and they all highlight a corridor of enhanced rainfall from S NY into MA. This also fits with a conceptual model of training bands in the confluent low-level flow downstream of the remnants of Barry's circulation. This will be an area of relatively high PW (GPS observations are around 2 inches as of 15Z), and should also be on the northern periphery of an instability maximum in the I-95 corridor from SE PA into CT and RI. There may also be some contribution to the overall vertical motion in the region from a jet streak in Northern New England, placing the right entrance region over the Hudson Valley and SC NY to W MA this afternoon. Given these ingredients near the northern periphery of the ongoing Slight Risk, the risk outline was expanded northward. Additional pockets of heavy rainfall will be possible further south and southwest, from OH and WV into PA and NJ as those areas will still be within Barry's moisture plume. However, the bands of heavy rainfall may be less focused as compared to further north. One exception may be if Barry's circulation center survives sufficiently in tact during the afternoon to lead to a more concentrated area of convection in PA. Hourly rain rates may exceed 2 inches in the strongest convective rain bands and thunderstorms, and 6-hour rainfall amounts could exceed 4 inches on an isolated basis. ...Mid South and Lower Ohio Valley... A Slight Risk focused over northern Alabama (with ongoing convection) was expanded to the northwest through N MS, W TN, NE AR and SE MO. The slow-moving convective cluster in N AL has generally shown a reduction in coverage of 40+ dBZ reflectivities on KHTX radar, although GOES-16 IR satellite imagery shows a maintenance of cold cloud tops in a small area. This convective cluster could persist for another several hours and lead to a continued flash flood threat. However, additional scattered thunderstorms are expected to the northwest this afternoon, with good agreement from the 12Z hi-res model suite. Any convection would be likely to be slow-moving with relatively weak mid-upper level winds and an upper-level anticyclone centered near MO. The slow movement of thunderstorms embedded within an arc of deeper moisture (PW around 2 inches) could lead to localized flash flooding particularly given recent rainfall and greater soil moisture across the region. Neighborhood probabilities of 2 inch per hour rain rates are as high as 40 percent this afternoon on the 12Z HREF. The northwestern extent of the Slight Risk was limited by some drier air evident in the GOES-16 Simple Water Vapor RGB over Missouri. Surrounding the Slight Risk, the Marginal Risk was broadened out considerably given convective uncertainties with an upstream MCS in Iowa that models are not handling well. More on that in the next section. ...Upper Mississippi Valley... A strong MCS with a bow echo on radar reflectivity continues to make progress to the east and southeast over Iowa this morning. As is sometimes the case with robust convective systems in the summer months, it is not being handled well by models; many hi-res models fail to sustain any convection in the area the MCS is currently located, and obviously struggle to model potential downstream impacts as a result. Two previous hi-res model runs actually had the MCS in approximately the correct place -- the 00Z WRF-ARW and 00Z WRF-ARW2. Both models suggest that the MCS could make progress hundreds of miles to the southeast into MO and IL. The ongoing MCS is propagating relatively quickly forward, and thus poses primarily a threat of localized flash flooding. However, it is important in how it may generate downstream convection (with a weakness in the upper level flow over MO and IL), and how the cirrus canopy and outflow boundaries impact convective initiation later today and tonight across NE, IA and MN. Given these uncertainties, the Marginal Risk downstream of the MCS was broadened considerably. Over IA and MN where another round of convection is possible later, the Slight Risk was adjusted south to better fit with the forecasts of the 00Z WRF-ARW and 00Z WRF-ARW2 which show late afternoon or evening development along the outflow boundary of the MCS and generally had a QPF maximum further south than other models. ...Southeast AZ... No changes across this region. The previous discussion is as follows: will maintain the Marginal risk over southeastern AZ. The threat appears pretty localized, but should have at least scattered convective coverage this afternoon, with instability probably getting just high enough to support rainfall rates strong enough to produce a localized flash flood risk across any more sensitive areas. Lamers/Chenard Day 2 Valid 12Z Thu Jul 18 2019 - 12Z Fri Jul 19 2019 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION... ...Northern Wisconsin/Northern Michigan... 20z update: There was not much change with respect to the shape and orientation of the Slight Risk area over far eastern WI into portions of the UP and northern portion of the LP of MI. There is still a strong model signal for MCS development, though there is still some spread concerning how the MCS evolves (since there is some latitudinal differences with respect to the axis of best instability. The regional/global models continue to be further north that the high resolution guidance with the MCS (which is not surprising, considering the high resolution solutions often have the convection forming/moving along the instability axis, which is typical further south. In any event, the previous thinking appears to be solid, and the Slight Risk area was adjusted for trends in the guidance. Previous discussion... At the start of the forecast period, amplifying shortwave at the nose of unseasonably strong 250mb jet that is flat and stretches well back into the Northeast Pacific will be lifting out of the area into Ontario, with a strong surface low pressing the attendant frontal zone across N MN/Lake Superior. However, given the orientation of the deeper flow out of the southwest veering slight west, the frontal zone flattens out across the UP/N WI into south central MN. The 850mb LLJ will be strong across the region at over 40kts and with solid moisture convergence at the inflection where the front flattens will support total PWats AOA 2". The LLJ will continue to be strong throughout day with slight backing supporting moisture flux anomalies over 4 Std.Dev from normal. However, there will be a ongoing convective complex across the Upper Mississippi River Valley and there is growing uncertainty in its evolution on D1. Hi-Res CAMs suggest with high instability and strong LLJ, propagation vectors will have a stronger southerly component potentially across NW IA/N IL into NW IND. Global guidance is quicker to kill off the MCS and favor stronger ascent/forcing near the front and therefore supports stronger convection across N WI into the UP and Northern Portions of the LP of MI. The former would disrupt warm advection of necessary moisture/instability across Lake Michigan for the build up for a complex Thursday evening into Friday morning. Given the uncertainty in the placement, but the very strong synoptic environment for heavy rainfall clearly capable of producing heavy rainfall rates and short-term totals capable of scattered flash flooding conditions warranting a Slight Risk. At this time, given the stronger larger scale signals will favor the global guidance slightly in the placement of the Slight Risk, however, will broaden the Marginal Risk of excessive Rainfall further south and west to account for the backbuilding system. ...New Jersey/NYC... 20z update: The main focus for flash flood potential still appears to be short wave energy crossing the Mid Atlantic interacting with deep moisture associated with the remnants of Barry. Timing has slowed slightly with the exiting mid level trough, which extends the threat into the afternoon and possibly evening hours. Given the broad moisture plume ahead of the short wave, the Marginal Risk was expanded to include more of southern New England, which should reside in the moisture plume the longest. Previous discussion... By the start of the forecast period, the deep moisture conveyor belt associated with the remnants of Barry has pressed eastward offshore into the Northwest Atlantic. However, its remaining sheared shortwave that supported a new surface circulation out of the Mid-Atlantic lee surface trof on Wednesday (not PTC Barry) will be in the vicinity of the Mid-Delaware River Valley, maintaining some near surface moisture. This will result in a tightening deep moisture gradient with 1.75-2" remaining through the total depth by midday. Given a slight trend for eastward press of the moisture, remaining high clouds are likely to eastward as well allowing for increased insolation and instability to build by early afternoon across New Jersey. Hi-Res CAMs and even global models suggest SBCAPEs to exceed 1000 J/kg perhaps reaching as high as 2000 J/kg. As such there is a solid clustering of Hi-Res CAMs suggesting 1-3" totals are possible with slower moving/merging convective cells in the afternoon. As such have maintained a Marginal Risk of Excessive Rainfall for NJ and the low FFG areas near the NYC metro, but have pulled the Risk area out of southern New England where lingering clouds/precipitation is more likely to limit sufficient instability to build back (additionally higher FFG values). Gallina/Hayes Day 3 Valid 12Z Fri Jul 19 2019 - 12Z Sat Jul 20 2019 ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES... A frontal boundary extending the Northern Plains into the Upper Great Lakes during Day 3 becomes the focus for moisture and instability to fuel convection capable of heavy to excessive rainfall. While there was generally good overall agreement with the synoptic scale features, there were some differences in the placement of the front, and associated highest rainfall amounts. In an attempt to mitigate some of the differences, the WPC QPF and Excessive Rainfall Outlook were based on a blend of the 12z ECMWF/GFS/NAM. A frontal boundary becomes quasi stationary from SD across southern MN into central WI and parts of the northern MI. The front lies on the southern edge of a very strong (for the season) mid level flow, and the flow becomes more or less parallel to the front. Moisture pools along the front, with pre convective precipitable water values near 2.00 inches (which is between two and three standard deviations above the mean) stretched along it. Model soundings indicated the potential for 1500/2500 J/KG of MLCAPE just south of the front, peaking near 20/00z. Convection is expected to develop in the mid to late afternoon hours, when the bulk of the instability is surface based. Short wave energy in the fast mid level flow could provide pockets of lift, resulting in convective clusters tracking south of the front after 20/00z. In fact, the simulated IR images from the 12z GFS suggest that a small MCS could track along the boundary in the 20/00z to 20/06z time frame. In any event, as the propagation vectors become better aligned with the mid level flow, the potential for training increases with time. Given the depth of the moisture along the boundary, hourly rainfall rates could approach 1.50 inches, with local 3.00 inch rainfall amounts possible (as shown by the 12z NAM). These amounts seem plausible where training occurs. As mentioned earlier, there is some latitudinal spread concerning the placement of the front (with the 12z CMC/UKMET seemingly too far north, given the distribution of instability depicted by the 15z SREF). So, despite the relatively modest WPC QPF (due in part to the spread in the placement of the highest QPF amounts), there appears to be sufficient moisture and instability to support a Marginal Risk along the front. Note that there could be some positional changes with the Marginal Risk as models come into better agreement with the placement of the front. Hayes Day 1 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.t... Day 2 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.t... Day 3 threat area: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.t... $$ ------------=_1563393979-2024-215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT = = = To unsubscribe from WX-STORM and you already have a login, go to https://lists.illinois.edu and use the "Unsubscribe" link. Otherwise email Chris Novy at cnovy@cox.net and ask to be removed from WX-STORM. ------------=_1563393979-2024-215-- --- SBBSecho 3.07-Linux * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105) |
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