> Hi, Tim Richardson!

 >   ak>> Small arms is useless for that purpose.
 >   TR> What makes you think all we've got is `small arms'?

 > If the army use tanks, bombers, satellite, drones, spying equipment 
 > where can buy it? If you catch a tank it will be destroyed by a bomber
 > withing minutes.
 
The cops in this country have military vehicles of sorts, even armored
personnel carriers.

One such up in Los Angeles was even equipped with a long battering ram
for breaking down the heavily reinforced doors of drug houses.

The police chief up there who was a sort of a grand stander once took the
controls of it to raid what was supposed to be a real bad-ass drug house.

He plowed through the front door taking most of the entire front wall of
the house down! 

Turned out it was the wrong address, the elderly couple who owned the house
were in bed sleeping, and were almost killed when the front wall of the 
house caved in causing the bedroom floor where they were sleeping to drop 
to the front livingroom level! 

Not much more was heard of the Los Angeles `battering ram' from then.  

 >   TR>>> to defend yourself against anyone who would do you harm or rob
 >   TR>>> you of your property.
 >   ak>> It is actual only in a country full of bandits. ;-) Watch
 >   ak>> carefully and shoot first! It's not a big distance from the wild
 >   ak>> West. It doesn't look as a civilized country, either.

 >   TR> We (at least *I*) don't care what it looks like to outsiders. We
 >   TR> get that kind of talk from a lot of foreigners; `we aren't
 >   TR> `civilized' '!

 >   TR> Yeah well... we like our guns, and we don't give a hoot in hell
 >   TR> what foreigners think about that.
  
 > Such thoughts are probably spoken not only by the foreigners. There are
 > many Americans who think that if people do not feel themselves safe 
 > without feeling guns with their buttocks there is something very wrong 
 > in such a country.
 
And they would be those who not only don't mind living life on their knees,
at the mercy of aggressors, but want everyone else to live life on their 
knees as well.

Trouble is...pretty much all those who whine about ordinary Americans owning
their own guns, standing at a microphone thundering against the Second
Amendment, are usually surrounded by plain clothes body guards who are armed
to the teeth! 

Its pretty easy for public figures to rail against ordinary citizens being
able to protect themselves against criminals. Most of those who pound pulpits
against it have never been in a dangerous situation in their life. About the
most dangerous situation Hussein Obama has ever been in is the danger of
buying a bunch of bad `choom'!
 
>   TR> Convicted felons, some misdemeanor convictions, and those who have
 >   TR> been in mental institutions are usually caught in a background
 >   TR> check for a firearm purchase.
  
 > If a person hasn't been in a mental hospital during his life it doesn't
 > mean he is healthy mentally. That is the way how nutcases acquire
 > submachine guns.
 
So what?
 
 >   TR> So... the only persons allowed to carry loaded firearms in
 >   TR> California are cops or criminals. Cops carry all sorts of guns, and
 >   TR> criminals don't obey gun laws. So the common law-abiding citizen is
 >   TR> on their own.
  
 > Do you think it would be good if people also carry sabers and daggers? 
 > It is even less powerful weapon for self-defence than guns.
 
 Islamic fanatics `go off' with swords and knives all the time, slashing and
stabbing people. I'd prefer having a .44 special in my pocket than a pocket
knife in that scenario.

 >   TR>>> All the mass shootings that have occurred that get the democrats
 >   TR>>> hot about gun confiscation have pretty much occurred in `gun free
 >   TR>>> zones'.
  
 >   ak>> Do you think that teachers in school should keep his holster
 >   ak>> opened? ;-)
 
A big thing is made by this administration about `keeping our children safe'.

Not a single teacher was armed and able to engage a gunman who was `harming
the children'.

At Sandy Hook even the security guard was `un'armed! And the children died!
 
 >   TR> A large segment of Americans are ex-military of one sort or
 >   TR> another. I am a Vietnam veteran, have been in combat, and I know
 >   TR> when and when not to open fire.
  
 > In Vietnam American soldiers created rains of bullets without thinking 
 > to much. It was enough to hear a rustle behind the trees. 
 
 Usually, when you heard a `rustle behind the trees' it was almost already
too late! And a lot of the time it took `rains of bullets' to stop those 
who were trying to overrun a landing zone.

 >   TR> People don't need cops or some other organization to `teach' them
 >   TR> firearm safety. I've been around weapons since my father first let
 >   TR> me try his 12 gauge when I about 11. I went through the Army, a
 >   TR> war, and many years living in states where handguns were commonly
 >   TR> carried by everyone. I've never shot anyone I didn't intend to
 >   TR> shoot, never had a firearm `accident', and never `went off the deep
 >   TR> end' with a gun.

 > Yes, it a cultural phenomena.

 >   TR> Here in the states I've used a handgun to prevent a few incidents,
 >   TR> take a few people into custody, and been deputized twice to aid
 >   TR> deputy sheriff's who were working alone in rural areas who needed
 >   TR> backup.

 >   TR> The vast majority of people this president is referring to when he
 >   TR> accuses us of `clinging to God and our guns' are just as
 >   TR> responsible and experienced with firearms as I try to be.

 > But anyway, allowing school teachers to have guns is a bad idea. ;=)

Allowing children to be murdered wholesale is worse.
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