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alexander koryagin | Tim Richardson | Re: obamas gun fight |
January 14, 2016 10:25 AM * |
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Hi, Tim Richardson! I read your message from 13.01.2016 13:37 ak>>>> It's easy - most Americans are afraid each other. So, no chance ak>>>> to live without guns. ;=) TR>>> Not true. Most Americans are watchful of their `government'. TR>>> And the main reason for the Second Amendment guaranteeing all TR>>> American citizens the right to keep and bear arms was to keep an TR>>> armed citizenry able to resist and overthrow a tyrannical TR>>> government. ak>> Small arms is useless for that purpose. TR> What makes you think all we've got is `small arms'? If the army use tanks, bombers, satellite, drones, spying equipment where can buy it? If you catch a tank it will be destroyed by a bomber withing minutes. TR>>> to defend yourself against anyone who would do you harm or rob TR>>> you of your property. ak>> It is actual only in a country full of bandits. ;-) Watch ak>> carefully and shoot first! It's not a big distance from the wild ak>> West. It doesn't look as a civilized country, either. TR> We (at least *I*) don't care what it looks like to outsiders. We TR> get that kind of talk from a lot of foreigners; `we aren't TR> `civilized' '! TR> Yeah well... we like our guns, and we don't give a hoot in hell TR> what foreigners think about that. Such thoughts are probably spoken not only by the foreigners. There are many Americans who think that if people do not feel themselves safe without feeling guns with their buttocks there is something very wrong in such a country. TR>>> Not all citizens are allowed to exercise that right, however. ak>> Who are not allowed? Is there a certain database of those who are ak>> not allowed? TR> Yes. TR> Convicted felons, some misdemeanor convictions, and those who have TR> been in mental institutions are usually caught in a background TR> check for a firearm purchase. If a person hasn't been in a mental hospital during his life it doesn't mean he is healthy mentally. That is the way how nutcases acquire submachine guns. <skipped> TR> So... the only persons allowed to carry loaded firearms in TR> California are cops or criminals. Cops carry all sorts of guns, and TR> criminals don't obey gun laws. So the common law-abiding citizen is TR> on their own. Do you think it would be good if people also carry sabers and daggers? It is even less powerful weapon for self-defence than guns. TR>>> All the mass shootings that have occurred that get the democrats TR>>> hot about gun confiscation have pretty much occurred in `gun free TR>>> zones'. ak>> Do you think that teachers in school should keep his holster ak>> opened? ;-) TR> A large segment of Americans are ex-military of one sort or TR> another. I am a Vietnam veteran, have been in combat, and I know TR> when and when not to open fire. In Vietnam American soldiers created rains of bullets without thinking to much. It was enough to hear a rustle behind the trees. <skipped> TR> People don't need cops or some other organization to `teach' them TR> firearm safety. I've been around weapons since my father first let TR> me try his 12 gauge when I about 11. I went through the Army, a TR> war, and many years living in states where handguns were commonly TR> carried by everyone. I've never shot anyone I didn't intend to TR> shoot, never had a firearm `accident', and never `went off the deep TR> end' with a gun. Yes, it a cultural phenomena. TR> Here in the states I've used a handgun to prevent a few incidents, TR> take a few people into custody, and been deputized twice to aid TR> deputy sheriff's who were working alone in rural areas who needed TR> backup. TR> The vast majority of people this president is referring to when he TR> accuses us of `clinging to God and our guns' are just as TR> responsible and experienced with firearms as I try to be. But anyway, allowing school teachers to have guns is a bad idea. ;=) Bye, Tim! Alexander Koryagin fido7.debate 2016 --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2) |
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