Hello Nick!

Sunday June 10 2018 22:26, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

 > On 11 Jun 18  00:48:08, Benny Pedersen said the following to Roger
 > Nelson:

 BP>>  RN> You still have X, Y, Z and a host of other options.  (-:
 BP>>
 BP>> opensource is nice 

 > A wise man told me "I'm afraid now this is a knee-jerk response in a
 > way you may not like to hear".

-- large cut ---

 > Sorry Benny, I know you post in good fun, and I know I'm fair game but
 > every time I see another yay-for-open-source post its just...
 > cringeworthy.

I am a Linux user for my main BBS system as it also runs Mysql, ftp, apache 
and
other servers as well as /mf suuport for MVS and others.

It is on 24/7 actually never needs to be rebooted even after a kernel update
(mind you, you will not get the new kernel features if you don't).
As an AMD 8 core it nver seems to go above 10% load and is usually below 5%.
Loading does not include large compiles as I have been known to specifiy using
up to 4 cores to help speed it all up 

I starting using Linux after IBM threw in the towel on OS/2, I carried on for 
year or so but the company they passed it to (having rejecting giving it to 
the
large community) did swat for the period and the only updates that I have seen
since is little regens with a few updated driver and those mostly from the
community.

At this point I gave up and I was using an early release of Warp v5 but with
with the old win v3 rubbish in and switched to Linux. for both my main system
and the media system that runs with Ubuntu and Mythtv, my laptop and the 
wife's
desktop use Windows v10 and v7 respecively and no I have not updated my wife's
system as that might be one step too far for her despite she has been using
computers since the mid 70's but that might be related to when we got married
and I was supporting M/F's (mainframes) and only went into micros in 1976 and
then creating a distribution company that supplied Books, Mags, Software and
even some hardware before PC's starting appearing (before 1981) that we
supported with being the distributor for CPM, MPM and others from DRI and then
MSdos and Windows v1, 2, 3.0 (Not sold by us as un-usable) v3.1 which we sold
in large number to the new companies making PCs in every different disk format
possible and here we had to build a bespoke system that could handle all the
different formats for 8, 5.25 and 3.25/3.5 inch disks.


Your comments regarding the user interface such as KDE or Gnome is, welfounded
I am afraid and this is totally down to major updates being rolled out on a 
new
distro version without intensive testing before hand along the lines of
release candidates and I do not mean over 4 weeks (way too short a period).


With Microsoft unless you are an early adopter it get well tested although not
as well as when it gets out in the field as millions of users do help to give
it some stick but here the problem is the difficultly of finding who / site
wise to send bug reports for the various elements that make a Windows system.

The major problem with Linux is that it is mostly community led so for those
that help test a new distro are doing so very part time and here I will 
exclude
people like IBM who mainly play in speific areas.

So yes Linux does have it's inherent problems and very much so when a new
distro comes out and here the major problem is that many of them do NOT have a
LTS version - in fact the only ones I can think of are Ubuntu and Redhat (paid
for).

As for pure O/S software, My own Accounting tool along with a range of
difering system products/tools including some for BBSing  have been made O/S
and that is more to do with my age to ensure that the software can be used
after my departure (but not any time soon).

The other reason was to encourrage others to help improve them but the reality
is that they don't.

Heck its hard enough to get feedback on them such as bug reports even.

DBridge going over to O/S might help a few users but very few as most do not
have the programming expertise to provide imput let alone the inclination.
May be the (well some one else will do it syndrome) showing up.

Nothing new here then.



Vince

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