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Message   mark lewis    Nick Andre   SR13   June 20, 2017
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 On 2017 Jun 20 14:00:22, you wrote to me:

 ML>> it supports the MSG message base format... in sbbsecho only but it is
 ML>> there and not really configurable other than maybe defining the
 ML>> directory to use. sbbsecho uses it to communicate with other
 ML>> non-mailer software, too... interbbs games have to use MSG format as
 ML>> they don't know BSO and can't make FTN PKTs... this is also how
 ML>> sbbsecho communicates with non-BSO mailers... could probably also
 ML>> make it directly compatible with dB... problem is how m folks are
 ML>> still using a non-BSO mailer these days... DM did ask for some
 ML>> volunteers with non-BSO mailers to please test the new code but no
 ML>> one responded...

 NA> Many people in Fido and Othernets are using DB. I don't collect stats,
 NA> but its being used with all sorts of BBS software. Someone in this
 NA> echo a few years ago wrote a comprehensive guide to D'Bridge on Linux
 NA> with SBBS. I know it can work with it, just probably a lot of messing
 NA> around with SBBSECHO.

sbbsecho has been rewritten since then...

 NA> I did reply to a SBBS developer, Stephen somebody, I forget the
 NA> name... sometime I believe it was 2 years ago about this. I was asked
 NA> if I could contribute or help with the code for SBBSECHO and perhaps
 NA> integrate DB directly. I was told a story about how the code was a
 NA> mess, it was always something that seemed "tacked on" and was never
 NA> really satisfactory.

yeah, that was the old original sbbsecho that was written by someone else and
then eventually adopted into the sbbs repo... since then it has basically sat
with a few modifications and updates but nothing really major... then it was
decided to rewrite it... now there's more logging and it is easier to see
things happening and figure out config problems... MSG is still used in the
"middle" for at least netmail... that's how allfix and other tools interact...
i'm guessing that they use the same MSG directory that sbbsecho uses... i know
there's an option, or there was, to import local netmail... basically netmail
that someone wrote to another user on the same system... it would get exported
and then needed to be imported back to the destination user's account...
there's also an option to not delete unknown netmails so that tools like allfix
 and interbbs doors can run through them looking for their inbound netmails for
 processing...

 NA> I replied very politely and said I was not able to share the entire
 NA> source code for DB but would be happy to contribute code snippets for
 NA> packet handling, Queue, mail sessions etc. Anything they needed out of
 NA> DB I was prepared to share or discuss... but I'm not handing over the
 NA> entire code.

 NA> Crickets chirping after that.

i doubt they would want the entire code base :)  but yeah, i hear ya... you do
have quite a bit of documentation about it, though... i remember reading it a
while back... especially the queue stuff... i think as long as MSG is still in
use, they should still work together... the question is if sbbsecho needs some
more work for MSG mailers or not... with the new rewrite, it may...

)\/(ark

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