Hello Nancy,

> Which, as I told Nick, is more what I really expect to be the case...
> it's just much quieter here in the echo than it's been in the past... 
> It's good that you can be of help locally... 

As I tell the guys in the group. We are not there to offer therapy or to
suggest what someone should do. We are there to help support the guys in the
decisions that they make to better themselves and move forward.

I think sometimes it is hard for people to come forward and acknowledge what
feelings they might have regarding being a dad and what their situation might 
actually be. I know from personal experience that guys sometimes are reluctant 
 to admit a situation. I know I have felt that way in the past regarding being
a dad.


Jeff

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