-=> Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 06-30-19  11:01 <=-

 >  ML> It was at one of those gigs where people would tape "child
 >  ML> molestor" up over the "music director" sign on his door. To
 >  ML> the best of my knowledge nobody was challenged, investigated,
 >  ML> or disciplined for this all, on either side.
 > An interesting culture... 
 ML> I tried to find some justification for the behaviors
 ML> of both the rich patrons and the in-the-trenches
 ML> musicians and found only for the latter. There's no
 ML> justification ever for sexual conduct without informed
 ML> consent. The rules of consent might want to be
 ML> revisited at some point, but not here and now.
 
There's no justification for the powerful taking advantage of others...

 >  ML> The taste will vary based on the liquid used to dilute
 >  ML> and the origin of the fat used to make up creaminiess.
 > Exactly.
 >  ML> I myself have filled milk in recipes meant for my own
 >  ML> consumption to cut down on the number of lactase pills
 >  ML> I needed to use.
 > And that makes sense in your case....
 ML> The latest yummy, possibly reported on here before,
 ML> is chocolate milk or hot chocolate made with nondairy
 ML> creamer. If I add enough cocoa, it can be quite okay.

Chocolate (especally dark) can cover quite a lot.... 
 
 >  ML> Real milk has taste variations, too, largely from the
 >  ML> feed used by the dairy but also (some say) from the
 >  ML> breed of the cows.
 > That is true.... and also from when the cow is freshening... We usually
 > taste all those variations, too...
 ML> I don't ... any more.
 
Since you aren't drinking the milk....

 >  > turned out to have sucralose in them... I opened a bottle and was
 >  > shocked by a sweet taste... The Wegmans sweetened ones say so on the
 >  > main label, which these didn't... I'd run out of the supply I'd brought
 >  ML> That is somewhat strange. Was the terminology at all
 >  ML> different from what you are used to, and the ingredients
 >  ML> list, what did it say?
 > The front label just said (x) flavored sparkling water, and the brand...
 > I used to get the sweetened ones for MJ, but I don't remember now
 > whether or not the sweetened aspect was mentioned on the label... I
 > thought it was, though... I only checked the ingredients list after the
 > fact, and the sucralose was listed there, along with all sorts of other
 > stuff.... 
 >  > appointment I couldn't reschedule.... forgot to take the sweetened
 >  > waters back into town with me today, in the hopes of getting my money
 >  > back....
 >  ML> Poop. Would you know anyone who could use them? Or you 
 >  ML> could save them for the picnic for an experiment.
 > The next trip into town, I did take them back, and they did give me my
 > money back, even on the opened bottle.... so don't need to rehome
 > them... If you want the experiment for the picnic, I could buy a bottle
 > for the purpose... (G)
 ML> No need.

I somehow expected that response...  (G)  Just for my information, I
checked out the labels on the Wegmans sweetened sparkling water.... I
used to get them for MJ, and thought I'd remembered some significant
difference in labeling... At first, I didn't even find them, but turned
out they'd been moved to a less prominent spot...  I was correct, the
sweetened (artificially) water was labeled as Diet on the front label...
and it turns out that aspartame is the sweetener there....   In the
meantime, Wegmans introduced 3 new flavors for the unsweetened line...
and all three have met with approval in our household... (which at the
moment also includes the kid)... mango lime, lemon lime and ginger...

 ML> By the way, I just tasted Zevia tonic water,
 ML> Put it this way, perhaps those who can't tell or
 ML> don't mind the difference are to be envied.

I hear you...  

 >  ML> Referring back to Kreisler and Heifetz, Itzhak 
 >  ML> Perlman says that
 >  ML> he became the opposite of Kreisler, who would play
 >  ML> as if saying, "Here's a beautiful tune", whereas
 >  ML> Heifetz would demand, "You! Listen to this!"
 > I suppose both ways have their place.... I generally prefer the former,
 > though.... 
 ML> It's hard to get both, and since the advent of
 ML> recordings, the latter, or at least styles that
 ML> gravitate toward the latter, have become prevalent.

There should be somewhat of a middle ground, though, I'd hope... 

 >  ML> and Peabody, among other places. Ronny was a cellist whom 
 >  ML> I used to work with but who decided not to go on in music 
 >  ML> - he ended up a professor at the K-School and is head of 
 >  ML> some kind of institute at Harvard.
 > Does he (Ronny) still play for his own enjoyment...?

 ML> So far as I know, but I haven't seen him in years.

Ah...  One could hope, though... 
 
 >  > ... All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then
 >  > doesn't hurt
 >  ML> Chocolate is less fickle, as well.
 > Generally...  
 ML> Well, there is milk chocolate.

Is that fickle, though, on the part of the chocolate or of the
eater... (G)

ttyl       neb

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