On 2017 Aug 08 10:11:30, you wrote to Roger Nelson:
RN>> I understand what you mean, but I think I would have been a natural
RN>> at it even with a surname like mine. I do favor the sea, however,
RN>> over flight.
JD> Do you have Flight Simulator? If you like flying, that is a great program
yeah, if you like games and unrealistic physics... if one is really into
flying, one should take a look at the FlightGear simulator... it is FOSS and
has been in development for 20(+) years... the original goal was much better
graphics than the other so-called simulators had... it has done a good job but
since it is FOSS and everyone is a volunteer of their time to the development,
some things still need more work...
right now the scenery is being worked on to try to come up with a way of
releasing updated portions as they are needed... the last time they ran the
scenery generation stuff, it took several months and any problems required
starting the generation all over again... this is because each tile needs
information from those ajoining it... at this time, the entire world consists
of 1818439 files in 50776 directories consuming a mere 88.6 GiB (95134950761
bytes) of drive space  yeah, i just ran a properties check on my scenery
directory that contains the official scenery that's distributed by FGFS... i
happen to have the entire world scenery downloaded but the simulator offers
on-the-fly downloading of scenery so you can get only that which you fly
over... one can also have custom scenery for some areas if they desire... my
custom scenery directory is only 2GiB and contains mostly override stuff for
some airports... things like accurate tower positions, ground nets for the AI
craft to follow, and even procedures files for the SIDs and STARs...
much is 3D stuff developed by numerous individuals and they're also working on
pulling data from the OSM (OpenStreet Maps) project and placing those in the
scene with accurate coordinates... unlike m$FS, you can actually see
true-to-life scenery when flying from, for example, Meigs to KLAX instead of
some artificial muck with no mountains or rivers... i even flew by Niagra
Falls, just a little while ago O
the craft? oh wow, the craft! there's currently two craft distributed with the
simulator... the first (aka main default) craft is a highly detailed Cessna
c172p with realistic startup, damage and capabilities... you can definitely
break the landing gear and wings on this bird! the second one is a UFO which is
used more for scenery object placement than flying but it is fun to fly as it
has some really futuristic physics... there's 526 craft families available to
download from the official FGFS distribution hanger... of those, many, like the
737NG, have numerous variants... the 737NG directory shows four or five
variants... some variants are simply modified versions that have longer ranges
needed for longer flights... some are cargo craft... some are for a FO (First
Officer) or CP (Co-Pilot) so that two people can fly a craft together over the
MP (Multi-Player) network... there's fighter jets, some with an ability to fire
weaponry, and helicopters... there's also some ships that you can control for
military operations (eg: carrier ops) and SAR missions... one of the guys has
been working with the Erickson S64E AirCrane to get hoisting, carrying and
dropping of cargo boxes as well as fire fighting water loading and dropping...
there's even numerous gliders and lighter-than-air craft like dirigibles and
hot air balloons that one can fly... some of the guys also have developed
motorcycles and wheeled vehicles to drive around... there's even a highly
detailed and operational space shuttle! see the end of this post for the
complete list of craft directories avaiable from the FGAddon Hanger...
you do need a decent machine with at least 8Gig of RAM... more is better,
though... i regularly see my FGFS using 10+Gig of RAM... you also need a decent
video card to get decent frame rates... 10FPS is ok but more is definitely
better... i started with an inexpensive $30US NVIDIA card and stayed away from
highly developed areas and craft... some craft, like the Boeings are highly
developed in their 3D rendering and can easily bring the sim to a crawl just by
loading them... i upgrades some months later to a $60US NVIDIA card and jumped
to ~30FPS for most things... i'm looking to upgrade my video card again but
i'm not sure to what extent i'm going to go... my system is an AMD FX3850
8-core 4Ghz CPU... much better video cards are as much or more than the CPU
chip, itself... however, they may have 256 or more GPUs in them... the more
GPUs, dedicated video memory and buss speed you have, the better the rendering
and frame rate... a lot of folks are using laptops with dual integrated video
cards... one for normal stuff and the other is switched to for high graphical
operations... Intel video is ok, ATI or whatever it is called these days is
better but we've seen the best from NVIDIA's offerings...
i guess you can tell what i've been doing in the last year or two
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14bis 21 707
717 727-230 737-100
737-200 737-300 737NG
747 747-200 747-400
747-8i 757-200 767-300
777 787-8 A-10
A24-Viking A-26-Invader A300
A320-family A340-600 A380
a4 A-6E A6M2
Aermacchi-MB-339 Aerocar Aero-Commander
Aerostar-700 AG-14 Aichi-D3A
Aichi-M6A Airco-DH2 AirCrane
Airspeed-Horsa airwaveXtreme150 Albatros-BII
Albatross Allegro-2000 Alouette-II
Alouette-III Alphajet an2
AN-225 an24b ANT-20
Antoinette Antonov-An-12 Antonov-An-22
apache AR-234 Arsenal-Delanne-10
Arsenal-VG33 Arup-S2 as332
ASK13 ASK21 ASK21-MI
asw20 ASW28 ATC
ATC-ML ATI-Resolution ATR-72-500
Avro-Arrow AVRO-IV-Triplane Avro-Lancaster
B-17 b1900d B-1B
B-2 B-24-Liberator B-25
b26 b29 B-36D-Peacemaker
B-52F BAC-TSR2 BAe-125
Beagle-Pup beaufighter beech99
Beechcraft-C18S Beechcraft-Staggerwing Bell-222X
Bell-P-39 Bell-P-59 Bell-X1
Bell-XFL-1 Bernard-HV220 bf109
Bleriot-125 Bleriot-5190 Bleriot-SPAD-S.510
bleriot-XI bluebird bo105
bocian Boeing-247 Boeing314
Boeing-P26 Bombardier-415 Boomerang
Br-761 Brabazon Breda-B.Z.308
Breguet-XIX BristolFreighter Buccaneer
Bugatti Burnelli-CBY-3 BV-141
BV-170 C130 c150
C-160-Transall c172 c172r
c182 c182rg c182s
C-2A c310 c310u3a
C460 C561 C684
CAB-G.Y.30 Campini-Caproni-N1 CanberraBI8
Cap10B Cap10C Caproni-C22J
Caproni-Ca3 Caproni-Stipa Caravelle
Carreidas Caudron-G3 Caudron-G4
Cessna-208-Caravan Cessna337 Cessna-421-Golden-Eagle
Cessna-L19 ch47 ch53e
Cirrus-SR22 Citation Citation-Bravo
CitationX Coanda-1910 colditz
Commonwealth-Ca-12 ComperSwift Concorde
Convair-XFY-1-Pogo couzinet70 cri-cri
CRJ-200 CRJ700-family Curtiss-Jenny
Curtiss-Model-F Curtiss-P40 D510
D520 DaSH Dassault-Mystere-IV
Dauphin DC-10-30 dc2
dc6 dc8-63 dc8-73
Deperdussin DerKleineUhu Deuche
DG-101G DH-106 DH-88
DH-89 DH-91 dhc1
dhc2 dhc3 dhc4
dhc6 dhc8 Diamond-Da40
Diamond-Da42 DO-228 DO-26
DO-335 Douglas-Dc3 Douglas-Dolphin
DO-X DR400 DR400-dauphin
Dragonfly Dromader Dunne-D.5
E-2C E3B eastbourne_mono
ec130 ec135 Embraer-ERJ-145
ercoupe Etrich-Taube eurofighter
EV55 extra500 F-106-dart
F-117 f-14b F-15
f16 f18 F-35B
F4U F6F-Hellcat F7F-Tigercat
F80C F-86 F-8E-Crusader
F9F-Panther fa223 Fairchild-C119
Fairchild-Metroliner Fairey-Gannet Falcon-50
Farman-III Farman-IV Fiat-G55
Fiat-G91 FK9MK2 fkdr1
flash2a Focke-Wulf-F19-ente Focke-Wulf-Ta.154
fokker100 fokker50 Fokker-Eindecker-EIII
Fokker-G1 Fokker-S-11 Fokker-Spin
followme Ford-Trimotor Fouga-Magister
fw190 Fw200 Fw61
G-164 Gee-Bee Gloster-Gladiator
Gloster-Meteor Gloster-Whittle Gotha-G-V
Grob-Astir Grob-G109 Grob-G115
Grob-Gf200 Grumman-American-AA1 H1-Racer
H-21C-Shawnee H4-Hercules Handley-Page-Halifax
Hansajet harrier Harrier-GR1
Harrier-GR3 Hawker-Siddeley-Nimrod He-111
He162 Heinkel-He-111 Heinkel-He-111Z
Heinkel-He-177 Heinkel-He-178 Heinkel-He-280
Heston-Type5 HM-14 Hornet
Horsa Horten-Ho-IX HS-P-75
Hughes-XF11 Hunter HUP-Retriever
Hurricane Icaro_MRX13 IL-2
IL-76 j22 J3Cub
j7w JA37 Jaguar
JAS39-Gripen jeep jetman
Jodel-D140 JT-5B ju52
Ju-87 Ju-88 Junkers-F13
Junkers-G.38ce Junkers-Ju-390 Junkers-W34
K5Y1 K-7 Ka-50
Ka6 Katana Kawasaki-Ki-61-Hien
KC135 Ki-84 KM
kodiak L-1011-500 l39
La-5 Lancair-235 LATE-29
Late-631 Leduc-022 Lightning
Lionceau Lockheed1049 Lockheed1049h
Lockheed-Martin-FA-22A-Raptor Lockheed-NF104 Lockheed-NF104A
Lockheed-P38 Lockheed-SR71 Lockheed-U-2S
Lockheed-Vega Long-EZ Lynx-WG13
M-4-Bison-A Macchi-Castoldi-MC72 Macchi-M33
marchetti Martin-Baker-MB5 MB326
MD11 MD-11 MD-312-Flamant
me163 ME-209-V1 ME-262
ME-262HGIII me323 Messerschmitt-BF110
Messerschmitt-Libelle Messerschmitt-P1101 MFI-9
MiG-15 MiG-21bis Mig-29
Mil-Mi-12 Mil-Mi-24 mirage2000
Mirage-2000 Mirage_F1 MirageIII
MirageIV mosquito MPCarrier
MQ-9 MRJ MS-406
M-XE Nakajima-B5N Nieuport-11
Noratlas Nord-1405-Gerfaut-II Nord-2502
Nordstern North-American-T28D-Trojan North-American-T6-Texan
Northrop-P61 Northrop-xb35 NTPS
ogel OH-1 OH-58D
ornithopter OV10 P130UL
P180 P-38-Lightning P47
p51d pa22 pa24-250
pa28-161 PaperAirplane Parachutist
paraglider payen-pa100 payen-pa350cd
PBY-Catalina PC-12 PC-21
PC-6 pc7 PC-9M
Percival-Mew-Gull Piaggio-P166 Piaggio-Pegna-Pc-7
Pioneer-200 Piper-PA-18 Piper-PA-28
Piper-PA-32 pittss1c Polikarpov-I16
Pond-Racer Potez-630 Pterodactyl
Pterosaur pushback Q400
Quickie R22 R44
RAF-S-E-5 rah-66 rallye-MS893
Rascal RV-6A Ryan-Navion
Ryan-PT22 Ryan-SoSL S-51-Dragonfly
SaabJ35F santa Saunders-Roe-Princess
seahawk SeaVixen SenecaII
sf25b SG38 sgs233
Short_Empire Short-Stirling shuttle
SIAI-Marchetti-S.205R SIAI-Marchetti-SF.260 Sikorsky-76C
Sikorsky-S38 Sikorsky-S58 Skyranger
Sky-sportster Skyvan SM-55
sm79 snowplow Socata-ST10
sopwithCamel SpaceShip-One SpaceShuttle
SPAD-VII Spitfire spitfireIX
SR71-BlackBird Stampe-SV4 Starship
Stearman Stieglitz Stiletto
Storch Su-25 SU-37
Submarine_Scout Super-Etendard Super-Frelon
SuperGuepard912 superguppySGT Supermarine-S.6B
Superwal T37 T38
T-4 T-50 TBM-Avenger
Tecnam-P2006T Tecnam-P2010 Tecnam-P92
Tigre TU-114 tu134
Tu-134 tu154 tu154b
Tu-22-Blinder TU-95 Tu-SB2bis-M103
UH-1 UH-60 V22-Osprey
Velocity-XL Vickers-Vanguard Vickers-Vimy
victor VMX22-Osprey Vostok-1
vulcanb2 Westland-Whirlwind wrightFlyer1903
X15 x24b XB-70
XP-67 Yak-130 Yak-18T
Yak-23 yak3 Yak-36
YardStik YF-23 YS-11
ZF_Navy_free_balloon ZivkoEdge Zlin-50lx
ZLT-NT
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oops... you got me triggered :LOL:
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