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Message   BOB ACKLEY    DAN CROSS   Worst presidents   May 29, 2018
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>  BA> > But let's assume for a moment that slavery was, in fact, dying out.
>  BA> > What was to become of the enslaved peoples and their descendants?
>  BA> 
>  BA> Lincoln wanted to pack them off to Africa.  I think they should have
>  BA> been resettled into the northern states (and many of them did go
there).
> 
> I'm only quoting this bit because this is important.
> 
> No no; that wasn't what I asked. I don't care what Lincoln did (or did
> not) want to do.  The claim was made that slavery was on the way out in
> the confederacy.  Well, that contradicts the view of most historians,
> but that aside, I'm interested in what the *leaders of the confederacy*
> proposed to do with the enslaved and their descendants.  Suggesting that
> they simply be resettled in the northern states is punting the question.

Not really.  You asked what was to become of those people and I provided
two proposals.  Most people don't know - or don't want to admit - that
Saint Lincoln wanted to ship all the blacks in this country to Africa.  I
don't know what the Confederacy's leaders wanted to do with them.

Would you have preferred that I said they should be killed?  It wasn't
their fault they were here.  Of course the point could be made that those
blacks shipped here had been captured in battle and were sold into
slavery by their captors (most of whom were also black); the alternative
to slavery for them was death.

I do know that Saint Lincoln owned slaves (through his wife's family, the
Todds) that weren't freed until after the 13th Amendment was passed (as a
side note, his famed - and unConstitutional - Emancipation Proclamation
didn't free his slaves - or for that matter any slaves in any areas under
the control of the union regime).  Hiram Grant also owned slaves until he
was forced to give them up by the 13th Amendment.  OTOH, Robert E Lee
inherited slaves from his father-in-law's estate, and he freed them as
soon as he was able to do so - in 1862
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