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Message   mark lewis    Maurice Kinal   that trick never works   April 12, 2019
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 On 2019 Apr 12 20:50:04, you wrote to me:

 ml>> on my box i had to specifically assign a modifier key to use so as to
 ml>> be able to enter ""blended"" characters...

 MK> By blended do you mean multibyte?

no because even the ones in CP437 that are greater than 127 have to be
""blended""... by blended i mean that i have to hold the modifier button and
then hit the two keys, in proper order, to create the character...

 MK> Anyhow I won't quote back your modifier keys as they show as C1
 MK> control codes here.  I never use those but perhaps they will work in
 MK> other editors, maybe even joe. That I don't know.

i dunno... C1?? AFAIK they're just CP437 characters greater than 127...

 ml>> what i describe is what i had to do on a KDE GUI setup...

 MK> Ah!  Yeah I read something about that somewhere.  No KDE here, or anything
 MK> like it, so I cannot confirm nor deny.  All I know for sure that on the
 MK> linux console those tricks won't work.  The left <ALT> plus the decimal
 MK> number does on both the console and in vim, as well as the correct control
 MK> codes, and I'd imagine the same might be true for codepages.

i was never able to create any of the CP437 characters greater than 127 until i
 enabled the ""blended"" character modifier key and then learned a little bit
about how to do it properly...

 MK> This being a native uft8 enviroment makes things much easier when that
 MK> is the goal.

i don't know what condition this console is in... i tried a lot of things to
try to get CP437 working so i could telnet or ssh into a BBS system and be able
 to properly display files with characters greater than 127 in them...
especially the "box drawing" characters which we use quite a lot when drawing
our ASCII/ANSI menus and other screens... CP437 spoiled a lot of us and it is
hard to get away from it...

 MK> Also having iconv handy makes it extremely convenient to convert to 8
 MK> bit codepages when needed.

that's all fine and good except when we're trying to create nice screens for
our BBSes...

 MK> However I try and avoid that since I have yet to see a 8 bit codepage
 MK> that has it all and I am greedy.  ;-)

if only we were all so lucky :)

)\/(ark

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