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Message   mark lewis    Ozz Nixon   When to add --- and * Origin...   March 25, 2019
 3:25 PM *  

 On 2019 Mar 25 12:23:48, you wrote to All:

 ON> Are the tearlines only added by the tosser? Or (as I see GoldEd do) is it
 ON> okay for the Message System (BBS or in my case NNTP Service) to append the
 ON> Tear line?

the message creation system can add tear lines... that would be the editor or
maybe the BBS software after the message is created and imported into the
message base when the user leaves the editor after saving the message...

tossers, being the last in line, can add tear lines if they do not already
exist... some tossers add a tear line all the time... some properly invalidate
existing ones and add their own... generally invalidating a tear line is simply
 changing the center dash to an exclimation point... some tossers also have the
 ability to retear which means replacing an existing tear line... i used to use
 fastecho's retear to remove tear lines completely...

retearing was brought to us by the tear line wars... folks didn't want to be
called out for running unregistered software which was noted in the tear line
so someone came up with a tool to specifically retear and put what they wanted
on the tear line... this is where the PID and TID control lines came from...
instead of putting the information, registered or not, in the tear line, it can
 now be hidden in the control lines...

 ON> And, of course the next step down - * Origin... I noticed JAMNNTPd
 ON> would double space in from of the original when reading or replying to
 ON> the message. Any reason I should or should not follow their lead?

there sure is a reason... it should not be putting two spaces... that's an
invalid origin line... you need to check the code and see why it is doing
that... it wasn't when i was using it... check in the JAMNNTPD echo...

 ON> And on a new post - okay if I add the Origin line too? Or is that a
 ON> Tosser piece?

any software, from the editor back to the tosser can add tear and origin
lines... the key is if one already exists, it should not be messed with... but
operators have control over their systems and if they want to change these
lines, they can up to the point of the messages being packed into pkts for
delivery to other systems...

[trim]

 ON> And per those two topics, if an editor appends the tear line and possible
 ON> the Origin, should the BBS/NNTP re-tear?

it is not a "should"... it is up to the system operator but only to a point as
mentioned above... once packed and transmitted, other systems handling the
message must not alter them... there is a difference in how they are handled
during export and how they are handled on import or passing to other systems...

)\/(ark

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