-=> Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 05-23-19  07:23 <=-

 DS>> I saw a Facebook Live video of a ham radio operator on the Southwest
 DS>> Chief, heading into Gallup, New Mexico.
 NB>> Was it someone you knew....?

 DS> Sure was. His name is Elmer, and the ironic thing is, there is a
 DS> term in ham radio, known as "Elmer"...for an individual who teaches,
 DS> instructs, mentors, a fellow ham radio operator on how to do a certain
 DS> mode in the hobby. It can be soldering, kit building, net control,
 DS> traffic handling, administering exams, setting up a radio or computer
 DS> program for a certain mode, or any other number of things.
 DS> So, Elmer is an Elmer. <G>

A name that works...    My Dad's last name was Elder, and he was an
Elder in our church...  so he was Elder Elder...  What's more, he had
two other (both younger than he) brothers who also were Elders in their
churches, so he was the eldest Elder Elder.... 

 DS> However, with the Elmering, once shown what to do, the individual is
 DS> expected to be able to do the task at hand. The Elmer is NOT there to
 DS> coddle and help them constantly, every step of the way.

Just to mentor, and get them started...  

 DS> It's the same as "The unwritten rule of Sysoping" in setting up a BBS.
 DS> Once shown how to do a particular configuration, you're expected to do
 DS> it. Otherwise, it's the other Sysop's setup, and not yours.
 DS> I heard of one ungrateful Sysop a few years ago, who had another
 DS> Sysop set up his BBS for him, but then the Sysop, who did none of the
 DS> work, took credit for doing it, without giving it to where credit was
 DS> due. The Sysop who did the work got his revenge (a dish best served
 DS> cold), in working with another Sysop. Apparently, he had been counseled
 DS> to "give credit where credit was due" (as I'm a firm believer in such),
 DS> apparently his pride and his ego wouldn't let him do it.
 DS> So, while one Sysop was engaged in chat with this "thief Sysop", the
 DS> other Sysop found the guys IP address, went inside his system, and
 DS> basically wiped out his hard drive. As soon as the ungrateful Sysop
 DS> exited chat, his computer crashed big time.

Sounds like the mentor Sysop had left some back doors open to get back
into the computer itself.... Had the thief sysop done what he should
have, to secure his own system, the other couldn't have crashed him, I'd
think.... 

ttyl         neb

... There cannot be a crisis today; my schedule is already full.

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