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Message   NANCY BACKUS    JOE MACKEY   Re: Pop and fish   March 31, 2019
 9:22 PM *  

-=> Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-27-19  07:34 <=-

 JM> Nancy wrote --
 
 >  JM> Maybe St Pat's is considered a feast day, like Sunday's in Lent
 >  JM> which are always feast and never fast days?  :)
 > I suppose that's a possibility...  Not being Catholic, I didn't know
 > about the Sundays in Lent being feast not fast days....

 JM> Sunday, in the Catholic tradition, is always a feast day, never a
 JM> fast day.
 JM> (I've always wondered why fast days seem to move so slowly).

Obviously, not occupying one's time in the spiritual things that it's
supposed to be enabling... <G>

 JM> And most fast days are merely fasting from certain foods, not going
 JM> without food completely.

I did know that... :)

 JM> Little history lesson.
 JM> In the Middle Ages the church and king owned nearly all the land and
 JM> whatever was on it.  (Along with a few scattered noblemen).  Thus for
 JM> example even fallen tree limbs could not be picked up by the average
 JM> peasant for fuel since the land the tree grew on was not theirs nor
 JM> where the limbs that fell off.
 JM> What the king/nobles didn't own the church/monasteries did.
 JM> Thus if a river, stream, whatever flowed past the monastery (and
 JM> most houses, whatever, did for the water) the monastery owned the fish
 JM> in the river.  These they would catch and sell.  From this grew the
 JM> tradition (it was never church law) of fish on Friday so the church
 JM> would have a steady weekly income from the fish. This extended to the
 JM> seas which the king owned, along with whatever was in it, to a certain
 JM> point some miles from land. This in turn led to whatever country owning
 JM> so much of the sea from the shore, which is still common with one being
 JM> in national or international waters.

Yup... knew that, too...  :)

 JM> During Prohibition one could drink 12 miles off the coast, in
 JM> international waters, leading to cruises were people would steam out
 JM> 12 miles, get sloshed legally, then sail back home.  (It was a bit
 JM> tricky getting the illegal booze on board the ship in an American
 JM> harbour to begin with, but that's another story).   

I'm not sure I knew all of that, though... ;)  Makes sense, however... :) 

 JM> This ends today's history lesson.  There will be a test later. Joe

Will this be on the test, or will the test be on the next part that you
didn't get to yet....?   ;)

ttyl      neb

... Pardon me, but are we by any chance consanguinous...

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